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Nov 12 2010 12:01pm
Quote (MegaVovaN @ Nov 12 2010 04:20am)
I was reading over your bulking diet plans. I dunno if this has already been asked but, how is it possible to consume that much food in a single day without feeling like you want to throw up? I mean I might be able to force myself to eat that much for a day, but I definitely won't be able to in the long term. Working out is fine, I can handle heavy squating, the pain actually motivates me more. But the bulking diet is like force feeding lol.


First of all, the bulking diets I have are really not a lot of food in general. If you are used to eating very little, it may seem overwhelming at first, but after about 2 weeks of eating increased an quantity of food you will definitely be able to handle more and more. It's all about properly getting your body accustomed to a new diet. The more you eat and the more frequently, the hungrier you end up getting because of increased basal metabolism.

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also you can try this supplement called Controlled Labs - Black Hole. It is an appetite enhancer. I used to have a really bad appetite like you, but after my first few years of initial training, I am like a black hole right now, without taking any appetite enhancers. I can seriously eat anything and everything in sight - eating competitions are no problem. But that supplement will definitely help you get there faster.

This post was edited by SKCRaynor on Nov 12 2010 12:02pm
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Nov 12 2010 12:04pm
Quote (Kiston @ Nov 12 2010 05:23am)
if im eating 2000cals a day only eating carbs in the morning and post workout, how many carbs should be in each of the meals?

i think i will try tkd out after a while on the keto im doing.


30-40g each meal. For morning make sure you get approx 15 simple and 15-25 complex. For PWO, get more like 25-30 simple, complex is not necessary at that point.
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Nov 12 2010 12:05pm
Quote (KramerFtw @ Nov 12 2010 06:55am)
Damn raynor, didnt know about the fat, and this mornin I woke up and did my usualy routine of 3eggs + 1 or 2 oz of cheese, I had 1 cheese

Il have no PURE fat sources the rest of the day, but some of the stuff with carbs has a small amount of fat, nothin i can do now =( lol


it's perfectly OK...now you know =)
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Nov 12 2010 12:09pm
Quote (dirTyMan @ Nov 12 2010 11:52am)
Well , I havent noticed any size gains in 2 months , how will I know if the muscles tear and repair bigger? I always get 8 hours of sleep.. so It could be my diet. Im always sore the next day after working out.


DOMS (delayed onset muscle soreness) is one major way to know if your workouts are tearing muscle fibers in sufficient quantities. There is a possibility you are also overtraining, can you please post me your regular strength training routine?

Next, your diet may very well need adjustment - please follow my previous post to you which explains the changes to make on that account.
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Nov 12 2010 12:10pm
Quote (iloveualot @ Nov 12 2010 12:05pm)
is it better to have some glucose with water after workout and like 30 min later the protein shake? cuz i read somewhere that it helps with recovery..

also if u sleep like 6h at night and then later that day 2 more hours does it helps recovering as 8 hours straight sleep?



Hey there.

First of all, I like to drink about 8-12 oz of 100% pure grape juice with 5g of creatine immediately post workout. This is the most effective approach to start with. Then, approx 15-20 minutes later I take in a normal shake with approximately 30g of waxy maize. 1 hour later I eat my regular PWO meal which is usually chicken breast, sweet potato, and broccoli.
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Nov 12 2010 12:41pm
Quote (SKCRaynor @ Nov 12 2010 10:09am)
DOMS (delayed onset muscle soreness) is one major way to know if your workouts are tearing muscle fibers in sufficient quantities. There is a possibility you are also overtraining, can you please post me your regular strength training routine?

Next, your diet may very well need adjustment - please follow my previous post to you which explains the changes to make on that account.


As of now this is my routine

Mon - Chest/Tri
Incline Bench - 3 Sets 10-12 Reps , 6-8 , 6-8 (Last 2 Failure)
Flat flies - 2 Sets 10-12 , 6-8 Last to extreme fail
Bench Press - 5 Sets 6 , 4 , 4 , 1-4, 1-4 (Last 2 failure)
Incline Flies - 3 Sets 10-12 , 6-8 , 6-8
Skull Crushers - 4 Sets 10-12,6-8,6-8,6-8

Tuesday - Back/Bi

Pullups/Pulldowns 4 Sets 10-12 8 , 6 , 4
Wide Grip Rows 3 Sets 10-12 , 6 -8 , 6-8
SL DL 6 Sets 8, 6 , 4 , 1-4x 3
Dumbell Rows 4 Sets 8 , 6 x 3
Concentration Curls 4 Sets 10 - 12 , 6-8 x 3

Wed - Rest

Thursday - Shoulders

Lateral Flies 4 Reps , 10-12 , 6-8 x 3
BB Shrugs 6 Sets 10x6
Sitting Military Press 5 Sets 10-12, 6, 4, 1-4x2
Bentover Flies 4 Sets 10-12 , 6-8x3

Friday - Legs
Leg Press 4 Sets 10-12 , 8 ,6x2
Leg Extensions 3 Sets 10-12 , 6-8x2
Seated Calf Raises 3 Sets , 10-12 , 6-8x2 (My gym does not have this)
Widestance Squat 6 Sets 10-12 , 6 , 4 , 1-4 x 3
Leg Curls Sets 3 10-12 , 6-8x2
Calf raises Sets 3 10-12 , 6-8x2

Sat+Sun = Rest

Everything is basically to failure on the last 2 sets.
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Nov 12 2010 12:44pm
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As of now this is my routine

Mon - Chest/Tri
Incline Bench - 3 Sets 10-12 Reps , 6-8 , 6-8 (Last 2 Failure)
Flat flies - 2 Sets 10-12 , 6-8 Last to extreme fail
Bench Press - 5 Sets 6 , 4 , 4 , 1-4, 1-4 (Last 2 failure)
Incline Flies - 3 Sets 10-12 , 6-8 , 6-8
Skull Crushers - 4 Sets 10-12,6-8,6-8,6-8

Tuesday - Back/Bi

Pullups/Pulldowns 4 Sets 10-12 8 , 6 , 4
Wide Grip Rows 3 Sets 10-12 , 6 -8 , 6-8
SL DL 6 Sets 8, 6 , 4 , 1-4x 3
Dumbell Rows 4 Sets 8 , 6 x 3
Concentration Curls 4 Sets 10 - 12 , 6-8 x 3

Wed - Rest

Thursday - Shoulders

Lateral Flies 4 Reps , 10-12 , 6-8 x 3
BB Shrugs 6 Sets 10x6
Sitting Military Press 5 Sets 10-12, 6, 4, 1-4x2
Bentover Flies 4 Sets 10-12 , 6-8x3

Friday - Legs
Leg Press 4 Sets 10-12 , 8 ,6x2
Leg Extensions 3 Sets 10-12 , 6-8x2
Seated Calf Raises 3 Sets , 10-12 , 6-8x2 (My gym does not have this)
Widestance Squat 6 Sets 10-12 , 6 , 4 , 1-4 x 3
Leg Curls  Sets 3 10-12 , 6-8x2
Calf raises Sets 3 10-12 , 6-8x2

Sat+Sun = Rest

Everything is basically to failure on the last 2 sets.


Everything seems to be in order....try also to do chest/bis and back/tris. That configuration alone can make quite a difference.

Give the diet a shot, and make that small change, and get back to me in a month and let me know how it's going.
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Nov 12 2010 12:53pm
Quote (SKCRaynor @ Nov 12 2010 10:44am)
Everything seems to be in order....try also to do chest/bis and back/tris. That configuration alone can make quite a difference.

Give the diet a shot, and make that small change, and get back to me in a month and let me know how it's going.


Do you ever suggest that I take creatine somewhere down the road?
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Nov 12 2010 03:20pm
Quote (SKCRaynor @ Nov 12 2010 02:59am)
yes, it would! 5x5 plans can benefit virtually anyone. What are your goals?


to get to 200 pounds for the marines ik i need to do alot of cardio too
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Nov 12 2010 03:22pm
Quote (SKCRaynor @ Nov 12 2010 06:04pm)
30-40g each meal. For morning make sure you get approx 15 simple and 15-25  complex. For PWO, get more like 25-30 simple, complex is not necessary at that point.


thanks again.
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