Quote (Balla @ Sep 12 2014 12:35am)

I don't think he means strictly 1RM, so not such a chasm.. but quite heavy ie 4-6 to failure vs 10-12 yes, and that they're essentially equal. Haha.

Him and others love to cite that recent study by Brad where the strength group had equal size gains to the hyp group when the volume was equated.. but the Hyp group trained for a total of 17 mins/session.. the strength group was over an hour...... Lol.

What others also don't realize is, when comparing a powerlifters routine, a strongman routine, and a bodybuilder routine, all will gain appreciable size of course.. but to really start seeing a major difference in terms of size, it's going to take a study longer than simply 1-3 months. That's why you see such immense differences after YEARS of comparisons, but no study can realistically view that unfortunately so parrots will continue to pontificate their baseless and mechnistically false gobbledygook.

Quote (Lightman @ Sep 11 2014 07:02pm)

Exactly. The 1-3 month duration of most studies is pitiful when exploring hypotheses linked to years long process that is hyp. There should be at least 1 meta analysis of 5-10 years to reach some sort of realistic findings.

Quote (Lightman @ Sep 11 2014 11:02pm)

Exactly. The 1-3 month duration of most studies is pitiful when exploring hypotheses linked to years long process that is hyp. There should be at least 1 meta analysis of 5-10 years to reach some sort of realistic findings.

Quote (Afficionado @ Sep 11 2014 11:07pm)

It is pretty odd that studies SPECIFICALLY dedicated to learning about hypertrophy seem to be set up by high-schoolers.... seriously!?

Quote (Balla @ Sep 12 2014 04:11pm)

Probably more of a funding thing
And controlling for variables for soo long
And trainee compliance and knowing 100% everything is being followed

Quote (Afficionado @ Sep 12 2014 12:25pm)

Its not even just that, its setting up experiments that dont make sense from the beginning.

Like comparing hyp from 30% rm to 90% rm and nothing in between.

Quote (Balla @ Sep 12 2014 05:03pm)

Ohhh. Yeah haha you're right. That's not realistic at all, I'm not even sure what they were trying to accomplish. Did you read that guy's arguments? It's better for him if he doesn't respond again after I pointed out his many pitfalls

Quote (Afficionado @ Sep 12 2014 02:12pm)

I havent even had a chance. I'll read it tonight :]