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Oct 30 2010 07:06pm
Quote (SKCRaynor @ Oct 30 2010 04:36pm)
No health side effects whatsoever if used properly.

Also PLEASE read what I wrote...I clearly gave you a brand and type:

"Optimum Nutrition Micronized Creatine Monohydrate"


Lastly, I have used creatine since I was 16 years old with great results and no negative effects.


I see, i thought that was a type of creatine or something not brand sorry

thanks and sorry if what i said annoyed you by misunderstanding
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Oct 30 2010 11:44pm
Hey raynor, I finishd my first day of cutting

meal 1: 6 eggs, 1 tbsp olive oil to cook with,1/2 cup green peppers, 1inch square of cheddar cheese 1oz? maybe

meal 2: 3 cups of baby spinach, 1 can of tuna, 2 oz 1 inch squares of cheddar cheese, 2 tbs of mayo,2tb olive oil

meal 3: 1 chicken breast, 3 cups baby spinach,2 tablespoons olive oil, some vinnegar, aprox 2 tblspoons

meal 4;6oz ground beef, 1 oz cheddar, 1/2 cup green peppers, 4tbsp of tomato sauce aka bravo spageti sauce, 1tb olive oil to cook with

meal 5: chicken breast, half a tablespoon of mayo

meal 6: 1 tbs cream, 1 cup cottage cheese 10 almonds

And I used a site called http://caloriecount.about.com/
to calculate calories,carbs, and protein

dont have whey yet , so i replacd one of the meals with chicken, cuz its around same calories, and protein

and according to the site, I fuckd up.. big time, atleast calorie wise

3226 carbs,269g protein,32.7 grams of carbs, is what I ate

I didnt realize that eggs and cottage cheese had so much carbs, and idk how i went wrong with the calories

what do u use to count the calories of stuff?
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Oct 31 2010 03:27am
Quote (SKCRaynor @ Oct 30 2010 03:44pm)


thanks man.
also i didn't know you couldn't work out while on antibiotics..lol i never even thought anything of it :o
3-4 weeks ago i took 3-4 a day for my tooth for the swelling and just infection to go away for around a week and i trained during that week and felt fine..now im starting back because my tooth is inflamed again etc
so i should take this week off of training? ill prob have to be on it another day or 2 at this rate.
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Oct 31 2010 10:33am
Quote (KramerFtw @ Oct 31 2010 01:44am)
Hey raynor, I finishd my first day of cutting

meal 1: 6 eggs, 1 tbsp olive oil to cook with,1/2 cup green peppers, 1inch square of cheddar cheese 1oz? maybe

meal 2: 3 cups of baby spinach, 1 can of tuna, 2 oz  1 inch squares of cheddar cheese, 2 tbs of mayo,2tb olive oil

meal 3: 1 chicken breast, 3 cups baby spinach,2 tablespoons olive oil, some vinnegar, aprox 2 tblspoons

meal 4;6oz ground beef, 1 oz cheddar, 1/2 cup green peppers, 4tbsp of tomato sauce aka bravo spageti sauce, 1tb olive oil to cook with

meal 5: chicken breast, half a tablespoon of mayo

meal 6: 1 tbs cream, 1 cup cottage cheese 10 almonds

And I used a site called  http://caloriecount.about.com/
to calculate calories,carbs, and protein

dont have whey yet , so i replacd one of the meals with chicken, cuz its around same calories, and protein

and according to the site, I fuckd up.. big time, atleast calorie wise

3226 carbs,269g protein,32.7 grams of carbs, is what I ate

I didnt realize that eggs and cottage cheese had so much carbs, and idk how i went wrong with the calories

what do u use to count the calories of stuff?



Hey there. First of all, be careful with that tomato sauce! That has a lot of carbs in it, doing 30g for the day is too much. No more than 20g total, all from green veggies and nuts is recommended.

Secondly, all products you buy have nutritional facts labels on the package. Just read it (pay close attention to serving size).

To reduce your calories overall, you need to get less protein. I know this sounds like blasphemy, but on keto you are getting most of your energy and fat burning from eating fat. Protein should be 1g / lb of LEAN BODY WEIGHT. To figure that, take your total body weight (example 200 lbs) take your body fat % (example 10% bf) and subtract that from your body weight. (200 lbs - 10% which is 20 lbs = 180 lbs which would get 180g of protein).

eggs have 0 carbs. Cottage cheese has ALMOST no carbs. Don't worry about those.

However, your breakfast might have also been a bit too calorie rich. 6 eggs = 420 cal, 1 tbsp o oil = 140 cal, 1 oz cheese = approx 80 cal, 640 cal. You can reduce down to 3 whole eggs and 2 oz cheese for example.

If your cottage cheese has a lot of carbs, change brands. Friendship brand (pink label) has very low carb content.
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Oct 31 2010 10:35am
Quote (Balla @ Oct 31 2010 05:27am)
thanks man.
also i didn't know you couldn't work  out while on antibiotics..lol i never even thought anything of it :o
3-4 weeks ago i took 3-4 a day for my tooth for the swelling and just infection to go away for around a week and i trained during that week and felt fine..now im starting back because my tooth is inflamed again etc
so i should take this week off of training? ill prob have to be on it another day or 2 at this rate.


You can't...where did you get that idea that it was okay to train during antibiotics?

Absolutely take the week off until you get better!

Never train while using antibiotics.

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&f=60&p=329935430
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Oct 31 2010 11:09am
Quote (SKCRaynor @ Oct 31 2010 11:33am)
Hey there. First of all, be careful with that tomato sauce! That has a lot of carbs in it, doing 30g for the day is too much. No more than 20g total, all from green veggies and nuts is recommended.

Secondly, all products you buy have nutritional facts labels on the package. Just read it (pay close attention to serving size).

To reduce your calories overall, you need to get less protein. I know this sounds like blasphemy, but on keto you are getting most of your energy and fat burning from eating fat. Protein should be 1g / lb of LEAN BODY WEIGHT. To figure that, take your total body weight (example 200 lbs) take your body fat % (example 10% bf) and subtract that from your body weight. (200 lbs - 10% which is 20 lbs = 180 lbs which would get 180g of protein).

eggs have 0 carbs. Cottage cheese has ALMOST no carbs. Don't worry about those.

However, your breakfast might have also been a bit too calorie rich. 6 eggs = 420 cal, 1 tbsp o oil = 140 cal, 1 oz cheese = approx 80 cal, 640 cal. You can reduce down to 3 whole eggs and 2 oz cheese for example.

If your cottage cheese has a lot of carbs, change brands. Friendship brand (pink label) has very low carb content.


When you say getin most of calories from fat, u mean cheese,olive oil, and cream right? I calculated how much I should get from fat, 1540 of my calories must come from fat sources

660 from protein, right?

so, I dont have full fat cheese, or heavy cream, does that matter? i just have some black diamond cheddar, and 16%mf cream (i think)

I will do better today, but ALREADY, from eatin less carbs and greens, I feel more suckd in/ like my body is burning fat already
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Oct 31 2010 11:21am
And I just checkd my cottage cheese, cheddar, and eggs, sais my eggs have 1 carb per large egg, cottage cheese sais 6GRAM CARBS PER HALF CUP, i had 1 whole cup

man....

:unsure:

This post was edited by KramerFtw on Oct 31 2010 11:21am
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Oct 31 2010 12:47pm
Quote (SKCRaynor @ Oct 31 2010 11:35am)
You can't...where did you get that idea that it was okay to train during antibiotics?

Absolutely take the week off until you get better!

Never train while using antibiotics.

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&f=60&p=329935430


i just didn't think about it at all lol kinda assumed it'd be cool cause i felt fine it was just for my tooth. anyways ill prob be off these by tomorrow. so it'd be ok to train wednesday?
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Oct 31 2010 03:37pm
Quote (KramerFtw @ Oct 31 2010 01:09pm)
When you say getin most of calories from fat, u mean cheese,olive oil, and cream right? I calculated how much I should get from fat, 1540 of my calories must come from fat sources

660 from protein, right?

so, I dont have full fat cheese, or heavy cream,  does that matter? i just have some black diamond cheddar, and 16%mf cream (i think)

I will do better today, but ALREADY, from eatin less carbs and greens, I feel more suckd in/ like my body is burning fat already



Hey there.

Yes. That's approx 165g protein and 170g of fat. If you go up or down 10g of each, it will not make much difference but try to keep it close.

Full fat cheese doesn't matter, as long as your total macros are fine. Cheese, Oil, Butter, Cream, Nuts, Nut Butter, Fatty Fish, EFA supplements, and avocados are just a few named sources of fats.
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Oct 31 2010 03:40pm
Quote (KramerFtw @ Oct 31 2010 01:21pm)
And I just checkd my cottage cheese, cheddar, and eggs, sais my eggs have 1 carb per large egg, cottage cheese sais 6GRAM CARBS PER HALF CUP, i had 1 whole cup

man....

:unsure:


Eggs with 1 carb per egg? What kinds of eggs are those???

Regular egglands best eggs:

http://www.egglandsbest.com/nutrition/nutrition-facts.aspx

0g carbs per egg. (realistically it might be a fraction of a gram, but it's negligible)


Secondly, here is the cottage cheese you want:

http://caloriecount.about.com/calories-friendship-dairies-1-percent-lowfat-i87262

3g carbs per HALF cup, so 6g TOTAL for a full cup. Just add some cream or peanut butter (get snaclite naturally more peanut butter) or o-oil to boost the fat.
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