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Jun 23 2016 10:28am
Quote (tommyd323 @ Jun 23 2016 09:06am)
Have you tried benching in your squat shoes?



I'm injury-free :P seems like any minor gym mistake and you'll fawk your shit up now. But seeing as ipf doesn't allow to push on toes, I'll be practicing flat feet benching.



Yeah, the extra 3 quarter inch raise puts my quads too high though :(

Quote (cloudkicker @ Jun 23 2016 09:11am)
Either he doesn't respect the potential for medial knee damage or he tries to get people to externally rotate their femur so that even though their toes point out their knees still stay out laterally past their feet. Technically you can point your toes out but it becomes harder and harder to maintain good knee position because your knees still need to be outside of your feet to avoid medial knee issues. It's better to work on normal ranges of motion and avoid the possibility of a rupture



Yeah, at heavier loads I get a bit of knee collapse, or even when I'm tired just at the bottom
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Jun 23 2016 11:07am
Quote (turtol @ Jun 23 2016 12:28pm)
Yeah, the extra 3 quarter inch raise puts my quads too high though :(




Yeah, at heavier loads I get a bit of knee collapse, or even when I'm tired just at the bottom


Which is fine if you only wanna work out for 5 to 10 more years. If you want to be in the gym for your whole life you need to take care of your body
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Jun 23 2016 11:32pm
nevermind

This post was edited by darkdiablo82001 on Jun 23 2016 11:36pm
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Jun 25 2016 08:34pm
just to hammer this home

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeBnV-816qc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBt5F2mMUtU

jump and land test is a great way to diagnose motor programming issues and/or restrictions in rom

This post was edited by cloudkicker on Jun 25 2016 08:40pm
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Jun 26 2016 10:27pm
Quote (cloudkicker @ Jun 25 2016 09:34pm)
just to hammer this home

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeBnV-816qc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBt5F2mMUtU

jump and land test is a great way to diagnose motor programming issues and/or restrictions in rom



I find it pretty hard to squat with good depth when my feet are facing more straight forward. However it might be possible for me with a slightly wider stance, is that okay or is it also not good?
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Jun 27 2016 06:18am
Quote (tommyd323 @ Jun 27 2016 12:27am)
I find it pretty hard to squat with good depth when my feet are facing more straight forward. However it might be possible for me with a slightly wider stance, is that okay or is it also not good?


Wider stance is fine but you need to have greater flexion/external rotation ROM to be able to get to depth when your feet are forward
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Jun 27 2016 07:05am
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I find it pretty hard to squat with good depth when my feet are facing more straight forward. However it might be possible for me with a slightly wider stance, is that okay or is it also not good?



What do you find hard about it? Just wondering in case it's something possible to address form wise.

Wider stance may be better for you, but you will need to really open up with your hips and work harder to not allow valgus collapse (knees caving in).

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Jun 27 2016 01:04pm
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What do you find hard about it? Just wondering in case it's something possible to address form wise.

Wider stance may be better for you, but you will need to really open up with your hips and work harder to not allow valgus collapse (knees caving in).


Flexibility.
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Jun 27 2016 07:48pm
Tried pointing my toes forward, they just go out slightly 10 degrees or so, it was actually really comfortable squatting like that. But it exaggerates my hip imbalance (one side of my hip is further forward than the other.) my physio gave me some stretches a while ago, but I can't remember if they were any good or which leg to do them to.

From a rear view when I squat my right glute is directly behind my right knee, and there's a few inches space from my left glute to my left knee. (My hip shifts to the right at the bottom of the hole.)

What stretches, and how often till I can have normal hips again?
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Quote (Lil_Gueto @ Jun 27 2016 08:05am)
What do you find hard about it? Just wondering in case it's something possible to address form wise.

Wider stance may be better for you, but you will need to really open up with your hips and work harder to not allow valgus collapse (knees caving in).



Toes straight forward make it hard for me to squat right down without coming up on my toes or compensating a bit more with a forward lean. Just try squatting down right now with a narrow stance and your toes facing absolutely straight forward. Hard to keep heels down
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