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Sep 29 2010 09:45pm
Quote (SKCRaynor @ Sep 29 2010 08:18pm)
This method of training is actually true and effective. However I NEVER recommend it by itself.

I always stand by using the anabolic cutting diet:

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&p=304616466

Which includes morning HIIT cardio + fat burner/caffeine...but also illustrates the importance of R+ALA 3x a day with  meals and Beta Alanine 3x a day on empty stomach

Keep the KETO going, get solid morning cardio, do lots of circuit training at the gym, eat frequently, and keep hydrated. Eventually the fat lops off until you're so tight it hurts.


I got a question about that keto diet that you linked him, would that be good for me? + the exorcise you told him to do?
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Sep 29 2010 10:37pm
who does r+ala and beta alanine help with keto?
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Sep 29 2010 11:24pm
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I got a question about that keto diet that you linked him, would that be good for me? + the exorcise you told him to do?


yes..it's a great overall plan for anyone looking for rapid fat loss and small strength gains in the process
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Sep 29 2010 11:24pm
Quote (SKCRaynor @ Sep 29 2010 07:18pm)
This method of training is actually true and effective. However I NEVER recommend it by itself.

I always stand by using the anabolic cutting diet:

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&p=304616466

Which includes morning HIIT cardio + fat burner/caffeine...but also illustrates the importance of R+ALA 3x a day with  meals and Beta Alanine 3x a day on empty stomach

Keep the KETO going, get solid morning cardio, do lots of circuit training at the gym, eat frequently, and keep hydrated. Eventually the fat lops off until you're so tight it hurts.


Excellent you're first diet you gave me got me 172 to 154. Now to cut to low bf% and get tight skin :)

So I can swap the fat burners for 200 mg caffeine pills would be okay?
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Sep 29 2010 11:26pm
Quote (Kiston @ Sep 30 2010 12:37am)
who does r+ala and beta alanine help with keto?


Glad you asked.

Alpha Lipoic Acid with meals and Beta Alanine on empty stomach throughout the day both assist the body in fat loss through increased metabolism of fat, deceased insulin sensitivity in the body, and increased resting metabolic rate. With every meal, the R+ ALA increases the body's fat metabolism and fat synthesis. With every Beta A on empty stomach commands the body to break down fat stores in the body and use it as fuel for further energy and sustained metabolism.

The two best things you can take during keto besides multi V and fat burner are DEFINITELY R+ala and beta a
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Excellent you're first diet you gave me got me 172 to 154. Now to cut to low bf% and get tight skin :)

So I can swap the fat burners for 200 mg caffeine pills would be okay?


Yes that would be fine. Glad my prior advice worked out for you.

Just make sure to drink plenty of water with the caffeine.
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Sep 29 2010 11:50pm
Thanks for your help much appreciated.
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Sep 30 2010 02:31am
Hi

Okay so I started off with some of the advice in this guide and it worked, I lost 18lbs (273 --> 255).

I was just hoping you could make some changes to fit me more personally. I'm trying to lean out and bulk up at same time.

5'10, 255lbs

Diet:

Breakfast:
1/4 cup plain oatmeal
3/4 cup frozen berries
1/2 cup milk (skim)

Snack 1:
Apple
30g protein mixed in milk (skim) or water (depending on the day)

Lunch:
5oz Chicken breast
10oz brocoli (i get hungry with less broccoli)
Water

Snack 2:
Apple or grapes (depending on the day)
30g protein mixed in milk (skim)

Dinner:
Can of drained tuna mixed in salsa
10oz Broccoli
Water

Workout Routine:
(I know I need to put more cardio in here but I recently switched gyms and the machines are dreadful, can you suggest any non-machine cardio excerises?)
15-20min cardio

If you need the sets/reps, let me know
Day 1: (chest/back)
Flat bench press
Push ups
Dips
Pull ups
Bar pull down
Rows

Day 2: (tricep / bicep / leg)
Dumbbell Curls
Hammer curls
Dips
Extensions
Squats
Deadlift

Day 3: rest

Then repeat this twice every week, going 4 times a week with 3 days rest

Sit ups every other night

This post was edited by PENandPAPER on Sep 30 2010 02:34am
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Sep 30 2010 09:22am
Hey, iv recently been cleared to workout and seemed like this would be a good time to start working out. Since im no longer in HS and no extra activities.

For workout after reading some post I found that.


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Monday - Chest + abs
Tuesday - Back + abs
Wednesday - Legs
Thursday - Shoulders + abs
Friday - Arms + abs
Saturday - REST
Sunday - REST

This 5 day routine is the best for gaining size and strength while giving all muscle groups plenty of time to rest.

Some great exercises for each muscle group include -

Chest - Bench Press, Incline Bench Press, Decline Bench Press, Dumbell Flies, Cable Flies, Wide Chest Press/Board Press, Pec Deck, and Pushups.

Back - Deadlifts, Good-Mornings, Dumbell Rows, Barbell Rows, Cable Rows, Lower Back Extensions, Lat Pulldowns, Close-Grip Pulldowns, and Pullups

Legs - Squats, Leg-Press, Leg Extensions, Leg Curls, Standing Calf Raises, Seated Calf Raises, Leg Lunges, HackSquats, Hip Abduction and Hip Adduction.

Shoulders - Military Press, Dumbell Shoulder Press, Arnold Presses, Front dumbell Raises, Lateral dumbell Raises, Dumbell Shrugs, Barbell Shrugs, Behind-the-neck presses.

Arms - EZ Bar Curls, dumbell curls, concentration curls, cable curls, hammer curls, tricep pulldowns, machine dips, tricep kickbacks, and skullcrushers.

Abs - V-crunches, situps, leg raises, alternating crunches, and knee-lifts.


Would be the best workout plan for me.

For a diet, I find it hard as I am in college all day and some meals may need to be modified.

The reason I couldnt find a diet is that over the summer as previously posted my Jaw was wired shut and food was no an option.

So my metabolism is not up to where it used to be and i need to be worked into eating more. I was reading bulking was followed by cutting(if read correcly) but, I lost quite a bit of weight since no food.

The sentence above this may be wrong , it whats i gathered from searching around.
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Sep 30 2010 12:41pm
Quote (PENandPAPER @ Sep 30 2010 04:31am)
Hi

Okay so I started off with some of the advice in this guide and it worked, I lost 18lbs (273 --> 255).

I was just hoping you could make some changes to fit me more personally. I'm trying to lean out and bulk up at same time.

5'10, 255lbs

Diet:

Breakfast:
1/4 cup plain oatmeal
3/4 cup frozen berries
1/2 cup milk (skim)

Snack 1:
Apple
30g protein mixed in milk (skim) or water (depending on the day)

Lunch:
5oz Chicken breast
10oz brocoli (i get hungry with less broccoli)
Water

Snack 2:
Apple or grapes (depending on the day)
30g protein mixed in milk (skim)

Dinner:
Can of drained tuna mixed in salsa
10oz Broccoli
Water

Workout Routine:
(I know I need to put more cardio in here but I recently switched gyms and the machines are dreadful, can you suggest any non-machine cardio excerises?)
15-20min cardio

If you need the sets/reps, let me know
Day 1: (chest/back)
Flat bench press
Push ups
Dips
Pull ups
Bar pull down
Rows

Day 2: (tricep / bicep / leg)
Dumbbell Curls
Hammer curls
Dips
Extensions
Squats
Deadlift

Day 3: rest

Then repeat this twice every week, going 4 times a week with 3 days rest

Sit ups every other night


Here are the diet changes:


Breakfast:
3 whole eggs
1 cup cooked oatmeal
3/4 cup frozen berries
1/2 cup milk (skim)

Snack 1:
Apple
30g protein mixed in milk (skim) or water (depending on the day)

Lunch:
6oz Chicken breast
As much broccoli as desired
Water

Snack 2:
30g protein mixed in milk (skim)
handful of almonds

Dinner:
Can of drained tuna mixed in salsa
2 oz cheese
1 small handful almonds
Water


You also need to be doing HIIT cardio every day...preferably 15-20 minutes when you wake up on an empty stomach and 20-30 mins after every workout.

In addition, if you are strength training only 4 days a week, you need to do intense cardio 2x a week in addition for a total of 6 training days per week.

The intense cardio days should have HIIT in the morning, 1hr mixed cardio later on with a combo on sprint work (either biking, running, swimming) and then HIIT for 20-30 mins after that, and finally 20 mins of LIC (low intensity cardio) before bed.

Once you reach your BF% desired, I can make you a plan for pure strength and muscle gains

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