How did Palestine get thrown into the mix

here's the funny thing- they elected hamas to be in a co-government with the palestinian authority in the region.

HAMAS has origins in Palestine and a few other arab states

That's fucked up. So if I understand, hamas and Palestine are in a co-op government and hamas is using Palestinians as the front line?

and this as well, if you watched the videos Lightman posted you can see HAMAS training children with guns and military gear to hate jews lol

Interesting. When I was going through boot camp when I was in the military they teach us to hate "terrorists" or whatever the fuck you want to call them

simplified for politcal handicappedness

the Hamas organization (an Islamic group in the country of Palestine) is fighting with the country of Israel

the Hamas believe that Israel has no right to exist as a country (not the first group to believe this), and that it is their duty to eliminate them

the Hamas shoot rockets from within Palestinian cities into Israel, so Israel is attacking back to try to destroy the sites the missiles are coming from

the Hamas are making sure their launchers are located in populated areas, surrounded by civilians

when civilians are killed during the Israeli response attacks, the world gets mad

so, the Hamas tell people not to evacuate because they are safe and Israel is bluffing..more civilians die, the worlds gets mad

the Hamas keep pilling civilians around their launch sites, put weaponry in civilian houses, dig tunnels underneath houses into Israel, and intermix with civilians, basically using them as meat shields/political protection so they can continue to launch their offensive on Israel

Israel has much superior technology and both offensive and defensive military power, so the Hamas keep attacking and causing little damage (the Israeli Iron Dome is a very effective missile defense system), while any attack from Israel to destroy the launch sites is much more destructive and receives much more criticism because of the civilian life that is lost due to Hamas propaganda



and we elected Obama...

This post was edited by bnrhodes2 on Jul 26 2014 05:36pm

Thanks. Hamas are fucking cowards god damnit I wish I could do something. I hate being a civilian

E/ sometimes I hate being a civilian, I do enjoy my freedom though

This post was edited by jimtheflow on Jul 26 2014 05:42pm

that's it. and somehow the benevolent world leaders in the UN just can't see it. you wanna hear how ridiculous we conduct warfare nowadays?

they (hamas) hide rockets & bombs inside civilian homes, hospitals, mosques, schools and kindergartens, and fire these rockets from there onto our cities (for example, the surrounding Israeli settlements bordering Gaza have 15 seconds to get to a bomb shelter. My particular countryside village has 45 seconds, which is "a lot of time"). when we (the IDF) decide on an air-strike, we call the house/public establishment and warn them of a pending air strike to evacuate, then 5 minutes before the air strike perform a "knock on the roof" operation where we launch a tiny missile that does nothing but make a loud splash sound on the roof of the place- a 2nd warning so they realize it's time to gtfo. by then we destroy the target. hamas is ordering palestinian civilians to get on the roof-tops so the air-strike gets cancelled.

moreover:
we provide field hospitals to treat injured palestinians
we provide humanitarian support of Unrwa, red cross etc, to go through our borders safely into Gaza (later we discovered hamas is using their ambulances to move weaponry from one location to another).
we provide the electricity and clean water into Gaza (we're basically sustaining our very enemies)
we enter premises that should have otherwise been cleared by aerial strikes, getting our soldiers dead because of it.


we're humanitarian to the point it's disgusting and hurts us, and would make any military strategist laugh his ass off at our code of conduct, but we do it anyway. because we're moral, and getting punished for it.

jews are kind of confusing. forgive me for how retarded this sounds lol. but there are people like lightman who are jewish, hes from israel...and then theres people where i live who are jewish but theyre also like german and hungarian or something.
like i get arabs and islam. islam is a religion and arabs can be from a bunch of different countries. but if someone says theyre jewish what does that mean? religious beliefs or just a cultural thing

and also its such a shame how nice the middle east countries were in the late mid 1900's and dont get me wrong not saying theyre all shit now but jeez..afghanistan and iran now are so much worse

/e @#59 wow thats insane. need to stop those kids from getting brainwashed

This post was edited by MutatedBeaveR on Jul 26 2014 05:48pm