Quote (RapDawg @ Jan 6 2013 04:15pm)
There are also people that claim magic exists and matter can be manipulated with the will, allowing people to do things such as cast spells seen in Diablo (fireballs, firewalls, teleportation, etc).
But do you know why we are able to cast these people aside as the mentally ill? Because their claims can be tested for. If someone claims they can commit an unbelievable action X, but we can't visually see action X even though we should be able to, then we are able to say: Thou art not but a mere fool.
But when these people claim to be able to cast magic that we can't see, that this magic increases their luck stat or whatever, and then they even go as far as to write books about it, how can we possibly disprove their sanity?
We can't, but we can take comfort in the fact that even though they make these claims, they are not able to accomplish any extraordinary feats or find success where it otherwise does not lurk.
So what can we conclude from all this? It's a scam, nothing more.
Meditation might be a real thing, but it does not allow you to communicate directly with your subconscious, and even if it did, said communication would not hold enough significant value to leave a lasting positive effect on your life, simply due to the nature of the communication (you will not make any revelations that you otherwise would not have just from conscious thought).
As for your personal experiences: It's not your subconscious you were talking to, but just another part of your conscious. You wanted to believe that you've "ascended" and thus fooled yourself into believing it.
But the term "subconscious" is so vague and inconsistent, that this debate cannot be called anything other than silly, as it lies on pure assumptions.
First I'll start off by saying that there are things to this day modern science has not been able to prove, yet that doesn't mean that they don't exist.
We CREATE our own reality, and this is pretty obvious because you're living in your own little bubble of a fantasy world where you think you're a god amongst mere sheeple on a forum to satisfy your narcissistic needs.
You classify these people on a higher spiritual level as mentally ill? Last I checked, textbook narcissism falls under "mentally ill".
A scam? No, absolutely not, a scam is something that rips people off so they don't get their money's worth. Meditation is however not a scam because nobody is getting anything out of it except you. If you haven't tried it yourself then don't speak on this topic.
As for me I've spoken with my subconscious and made deals with it and it has helped me out in this reality. New age books and business success books and motivational speakers touch down on the same concept of your subconscious and programming it and making deals with it to achieve success in life and become a giant corporate CEO, etc.
As for the subconscious part and revelations, you're not consciously thinking, if you even bothered to read the article it said you're supposed to practice thought control and subduing your conscious thoughts to hear your inner voice guiding you. I could honestly care less whether you believe in it or not because I've tried it myself and have achieved a pretty happy successful life just using the methods of communication with my subconscious. Miracles have happened to me due to this, meeting people at the right place right time, projecting thoughts out into the universe and it happens the next day, your subconscious guiding you on exams, etc. It has worked for me, so therefore your opinion doesn't mean a thing to me. I only posted this for people and helping other people and adding to the pool of knowledge for this subforum so people can improve their lives and increase their spiritual level and heighten their senses. Because the subconscious will help an individual regardless of his or her goals (even if it's bulking, cutting, or increasing one's lifts, because it'll guide you on the right path and you WILL GET RESULTS).
I don't need some narcissistic disinfo agent such as yourself telling people this doesn't exist. Because it does, and at the end of the day a man just has himself and his balls, your opinion regarding this issue means nothing to me or anybody on this forum because you're far from help.
I don't believe I've ascended because I realize I'm a mere drop in this ocean of consciousness, you on the other hand have believe you've ascended above the herd with your narcissistic personality disorder and thus have FOOLED YOURSELF into believing it.
So go live in your own bubble and stare at the mirror all day masturbating to your own image, because one day, reality will slam you hard in the face, and you'll realize your whole existence and belief system is a goddamn lie. Nobody gives a fuck about what you have to say.
Quote (xGeArz @ Jan 6 2013 07:43pm)
This is the greatest website ever created.
There was a website called Psipog, it was legit, but too bad it's gone now, you should also go visit TEXTFILES.COM and go the /occult extension on the website I think it would interest you and a lot of people on this forum.
e: Also, Thanks for the support guys!
It bring me great joy that people are taking what I'm saying seriously and are ready to take the first step to enhance their level of consciousness to achieve absolutely anything in life.
This post was edited by ViviLOL on Jan 7 2013 12:23am