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Sep 2 2010 09:23pm
New cutting diet, kind of on a budget so >.< :
Meal 1 : 3 eggs + 1/2 cup of oatmeal OR 1 slice whole wheat/grain toast + a fruit
Meal 2 : 2 scoops of a whey/casein blend
Meal 3 : Low sodium turkey breast on whole wheat
Meal 4 : Can of tuna on some greens (Lettuce usually)
Meal 5 : 8-10 oz. Chicken breast on piles of string beans/broccoli
Meal 6 : 8-10 oz. Steak (Fat trimmed) on piles of string beans/broccoli/okra
Meal 7 : 1 cup of cottage cheese or greek yogurt

Any changes?
I'm 5'8, 160 lbs, 10-12% BF

This post was edited by Mesonychid on Sep 2 2010 09:29pm
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Sep 2 2010 10:04pm
is there anything that i can buy that will tell me how far i ran?
and what kind of peanut butter and is there a difference between whole grain rice and brown rice?

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Sep 2 2010 10:27pm
Quote (3atsarr0ws @ Sep 2 2010 09:04pm)
is there anything that i can buy that will tell me how far i ran?
and what kind of peanut butter and is there a difference between whole grain rice and brown rice?


yes, one of my drill sergeants in basic training had one. i think it was made by garmin. it was a watch like thingy that told him how far he was running, how fast, and how long.

organic pb is best but your regular jiffy brand will do. look into power butter as well, available from bodybuilding.com

the bran is removed from whole grain rice. nutritionally brown rice is better.

edit: you can also go to a track.

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Sep 2 2010 11:51pm
Quote (xXCrAzYsHoT @ Sep 2 2010 10:56pm)
The only chest exercises I've been doing so far are push-ups, dumbbell chest flies.
And for abs just been doing crunches.
So what exercises could I add to hit them harder?

And I've been trying to reach 155 pounds of weight but I think I reached a "Plateau" where I can't lose anymore weight.


for chest, try the following:

Bench Press, DB flies, DB incline presses, DB pullovers, cable crossovers, and wide dips.

As far as abs - try weighed ab work...that means use the machines at the gym with resistance and hit the abs HARD. try v-crunches, weighted leg raises, weighted situps/crunches, double-crunch machine, and rope twists.


google the exercises if you don't know how to do them.
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Sep 2 2010 11:58pm
Quote (kbk @ Sep 2 2010 10:57pm)
Interesting and makes sense, what sort of routine would you suggest?
I plan to join a gym within the next month, I still have to find a soccer team and should be training or at the very least playing indoor in the winter.
I have a pretty low bf but I'd like it even lower, I know you can gain mass and lower bf at the same time so I want to look into that :o


I would recommend you stick to a fast-twitch plan...that means do reps with FAST and EXPLOSIVE on each exertion, and slow and controlled with each relaxation. So example, on the bench press...when pushing the weight up...push it up as fast as possible...when letting the weight down, let it down as slow as possible.


I would stick to a 3 day training week like this: (this plan is assuming that you are going to be dedicating a LOT of time to soccer - so I don't want to give you too much of a gym workload)


Mon - Chest/Back/Bis
Tues - OFF
Weds - Quads/Calves/Hams
Thurs - OFF
Fri - Shoulders/Traps/Tris
Sat - OFF
Sun - OFF
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Sep 3 2010 12:02am
Quote (Hathaway @ Sep 2 2010 11:10pm)
since you seem very educated about pretty much any health stuff... i have a simple question for you :p i posted this in another thread and i was wondering what your input on sleep is, maybe even a # of hours that you recommend for sleep every night

"i've actually been messing around with my sleep schedule the past 2 weeks or so... last week i did 7.5 hours of sleep every night and this week i was continuing it, however my phone died last night so the alarm didn't go off. so instead last night i got 10 hours of sleep and felt absolutely dead and retarded and very anti social all day.. whereas when i had 7.5 hours of sleep last week i felt that i was more social, more energetic, and my brain was functioning 10x better"



The human body requires roughly 1/3 of it's time spent on sleep. That means 8 hours a day. However, each person's sleep pattern and requirements will differ.

Some people sleep better during daylight hours, others sleep better at night.

Some people function better on 6 hours of sleep, whereas other people require 10 hours.

I would be in the business of telling you this....if you are living a sedentary lifestyle and tend to stay away from physical activity, your body will only require approximately 5-6 hours of sleep per night for proper functioning.

If you are moderately active and tend to work out or play sports at least 3 times a week for at least 1 hour each time, you are going to want to take in at least 7-8 hours of sleep.

If you are VERY physically active and work out or play sports at least 5 days a week for 1.5 hours a day, you are going to want to get 9-10 hours of sleep per night for proper recovery.


The best bet is to see how your body responds. if you feel that 7.5 hours of sleep makes you feel rested, go for it. However, natural sleep is always the best sleep. That means, going to bed when you are tired, and waking up when your body wakes you up. All the time while sleeping in a totally dark room with no TV on, and absolutely no noises.
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Sep 3 2010 12:04am
Quote (Mesonychid @ Sep 2 2010 11:23pm)
New cutting diet, kind of on a budget so >.< :
Meal 1 : 3 eggs + 1/2 cup of oatmeal OR 1 slice whole wheat/grain toast + a fruit
Meal 2 : 2 scoops of a whey/casein blend
Meal 3 : Low sodium turkey breast on whole wheat
Meal 4 : Can of tuna on some greens (Lettuce usually)
Meal 5 : 8-10 oz. Chicken breast on piles of string beans/broccoli
Meal 6 : 8-10 oz. Steak (Fat trimmed) on piles of string beans/broccoli/okra
Meal 7 : 1 cup of cottage cheese or greek yogurt

Any changes?
I'm 5'8, 160 lbs, 10-12% BF


for a slow non-keto cut, this diet should be fine. Avoid the okra late at night though...it tends to be more starchy of a veggie than the other green options. other than that, everything else looks pretty good. You can also make sure the bread you are using is 100% whole grain and not just "whole wheat"
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Sep 3 2010 12:08am
Quote (3atsarr0ws @ Sep 3 2010 12:04am)
is there anything that i can buy that will tell me how far i ran?
and what kind of peanut butter and is there a difference between whole grain rice and brown rice?


yes. It's called a pedometer. You can buy them at any major retailler or sporting goods store...or just order it online. There are TONS out there...but $20 can get you a decent one.

For peanut butter I recommend Powerbutter. For those on a budget, just get anything 100% natural with no added sugar.

Also, as far as whole grain rice vs brown rice....all brown rice is whole grain...but not all whole grain rice is brown. Either one is fine....there are other varieties of rice besides brown rice that are whole grain.
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Sep 3 2010 12:09am
Quote (jn134o8 @ Sep 3 2010 12:27am)
yes, one of my drill sergeants in basic training had one. i think it was made by garmin. it was a watch like thingy that told him how far he was running, how fast, and how long.

organic pb is best but your regular jiffy brand will do. look into power butter as well, available from bodybuilding.com

the bran is removed from whole grain rice. nutritionally brown rice is better.

edit: you can also go to a track.



Hey there...

why are you offering advice in my thread?

I've been over this a countless number of times. This is not an open thread for people to be giving advice. Please allow me to answer all posts to avoid confusion and also to provide me with the proper respect that I believe I have earned over the years of service on JSP.

If you have a question, please ask away and it will be answered. However, if you seek to offer advice, please go elsewhere.

Sorry to sound so harsh, but this sort of thing can NOT keep happening...this goes for ANYONE on here, not just you...so please don't take it personally.
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