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Aug 3 2010 10:51am
Quote (SKCRaynor @ Aug 3 2010 07:48am)
This is an interesting request. Medicine ball workouts are typically great for fast twitch building, but poor for muscle volume and general strength.

However, I will indeed give you a sample idea for explosiveness:


Mon/Weds/Fri = medicine ball days (at the beginning or end of strength routine...i prefer before because you aren't quite so fatigued)


Mon - Laying ball pushes (like a basketball pass, but laying down) - 5x10, front ball underhand throws 3x10, one-arm cross-body ball exchanges (sorta like playing catch with yourself across the front of your body), 3x10, and lastly standing overhead push throws (like you're passing the ball to the sky) 3x10.

Weds - arms outstretched holding the ball squats (literally hold the ball as far away from you to the front as possible while doing squats explosively) 5x10, lunges while elevating the ball from a lowered position to an overhead position with every lunge 3x10, ball jumps (hold the ball and explode up jumping as high as you can while thrusting the ball up as well as if you are going to slam dunk) 3x10.

Fri - Laying alternating ball crunches (twist your lower body to the right when the ball goes to the left during the contraction of each crunch) 5x10, decline situp ball throws (at the top or bottom of each situp, throw the ball straight up and lay back and catch it as you are either sitting up or laying back down) 5x10, and lastly hang from a bar with your legs and do hanging situps with medicine ball in hand at the top of each situp throw the ball up, catch it, and go back for another rep 3x8


why did you want to do these curiously?


well fitness is coming more and more to me, as is an enjoyment for sports and athletics performance. and i see/hear alot of good things about medicine ball from the professional industry, though ironically it is seemingly underutilized by everyone else.. just something to keep me interested... plus my friends are pretty dodgy when it comes to lifting weights, maybe this could suit them better lol

Also in doing some reading i read that ball training is or can actually be pretty intensive on the joints so i should have days of rest in between usage?
I was thinking of doing this on a random day during the week maybe in place of lifting? or as a supplement to it as you have suggested with examples

or do it on sunday where i have no scheduled training
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Aug 3 2010 11:55am
Hi, I wanted to start cutting bf after a pretty clean bulk.

I was mostly curious about the diet/nutrition part.
I'm sure that you've helped plenty of other people with a similar question as to mine so if you could possibly link me to any of your answers it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks for your time.
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Aug 3 2010 03:52pm
Quote (Riches @ Aug 3 2010 12:19pm)
when im working out, i should eat like no carbs right, except for the days i try to do cardio or something?
it said somewhere to keep your carb to 25g per day but i dont know if that meant to someone else


if you are on a PURE CUTTING CYCLE

follow this diet:


http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&p=304616466


keep carbs under 25 no matter what when doing keto...only do a carb up once every 1 or 2 weeks depending on your body
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Aug 3 2010 03:53pm
Quote (Honestly @ Aug 3 2010 12:51pm)
well fitness is coming more and more to me, as is an enjoyment for sports and athletics performance. and i see/hear alot of good things about medicine ball from the professional industry, though ironically it is seemingly underutilized by everyone else.. just something to keep me interested... plus my friends are pretty dodgy when it comes to lifting weights, maybe this could suit them better lol

Also in doing some reading i read that ball training is or can actually be pretty intensive on the joints so i should have days of rest in between usage?
I was thinking of doing this on a random day during the week maybe in place of lifting? or as a supplement to it as you have suggested with examples

or do it on sunday where i have no scheduled training



i recommend doing it in addition to training unless you no longer care about size and strength training. For pure conditioning and fast twitch training then you can use it in place of a workout or on off days. otherwise I only see it utilized as a supplementary workout in addition to your regular routine.
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Aug 3 2010 03:54pm
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Hi, I wanted to start cutting bf after a pretty clean bulk.

I was mostly curious about the diet/nutrition part.
I'm sure that you've helped plenty of other people with a similar question as to mine so if you could possibly link me to any of your answers it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks for your time.


please see these posts:

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&p=298006373

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&p=298250196

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&p=298250791


http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&p=304616466

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Aug 3 2010 04:03pm
Quote (SKCRaynor @ Aug 3 2010 03:53pm)
i recommend doing it in addition to training unless you no longer care about size and strength training. For pure conditioning and fast twitch training then you can use it in place of a workout or on off days. otherwise I only see it utilized as a supplementary workout in addition to your regular routine.


what about doing it as a means of cardio? Like throw the ball/run to it
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Aug 3 2010 04:39pm
raynor,
just wondering if you had any updated pics.

been a while since we saw one :P
curious to how your progress is going
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Aug 3 2010 06:43pm
Hi Raynor,

My main background with training is cardio.

Currently I am doing Insanity and playing a lot of soccer (usually 6-7 hours a week)
I am aiming to cut body fat, I weigh 161 and I'm 5'9, honestly I am happy at this weight but I'd like to have that lean "cut" look, or an athletic build might make more sense.

I probably eat way too little for my activity level, roughly 1500 calories a day which are clean (this being a good day eating wise) and then another 3-400 calories from crappy foods usually.

With a calculation (I can dig up the formula if people want it) I should be eating roughly 2900 calories a day maintenance.
If I am cutting body fat, should it just be -500 calories? 2400 clean calories a day?

I am following the insanity diet which is very high protein and carbs, I'm not following it religiously and I've seen gains (I'm on week 4, I've missed a couple days as well sadly.)

As far as weight training has gone, I've been focusing mainly on my cardio.
I have weights in my basement, a bench/squat rack but I don't have a lot of weight.
I was thinking of doing a 3 day split, since I don't have a lot of weight should I focus on volume, doing a low rep scheme with low weight would be pointless right?
If my goals are to get lean what split would you recommend ?


This post was edited by kbk on Aug 3 2010 06:43pm
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Aug 3 2010 07:17pm
Quote (Honestly @ Aug 3 2010 06:03pm)
what about doing it as a means of cardio? Like throw the ball/run to it


that's perfectly fine...i recommend it as cardio...the resistance increases the caloric burn, and the obvious cardiovascular properties are perfect for cutting and/or conditioning.
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Aug 3 2010 07:18pm
What do you recommend as HIIT?
I'm a meathead so I don't run at all. Lol :P
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