Yeah okay, I can't argue that astute assessment...
There has indeed been a total world population growth of 170% since 1980 which translates to 3.15 billion extra people on the planet today which is MASSIVE and supports the reasonable cause that you outlined in your argument.

Didn’t you guys just have one last week?

Don’t get me wrong, I understand where you’re coming from.
Unfortunately for the U.S., however, guns have literally been a part of our culture since we formed as a nation.
We won our independence from a tyrannical government and people still believe we may need to do it again someday.
An outright ban on firearms has a ZERO percent chance of ever happening.

Your solution may be the best one for you, but it isn’t the best one for every country.

Honestly, I believe we should be focusing more on mental health and family values as a society.
We’ve hit a point where children are no longer raised by parents, but by television and video games. Parents just provide necessities of life and don’t actually take time to teach values and morals and as a result we have a society for entitled brats, and bullies that think it’s okay to pick on people because they’re a little different.

Hell, if you don’t believe me look at almost any subsection of the forum. There’s undoubtedly some guy in his late teens or early twenties that’s done almost nothing with their life yet for some reason feels the need to establish superiority over people they’ve never actually met by name calling and flaming. (Hello kettle, this is pot.... you’re black)
They’ve been led to believe there’s no consequences to their shitty actions, so they treat people like human garbage and say or do things they’d never in a million years have the guts to repeat in a real world setting.

People don’t just wake up one day and go “Hey, today is a good day for a massacre”. They wake up one day and say “I’m fed up with being treated like shit and it’s time something was done about it”.
There’s a reason school shootings are more prevalent than shootings in grocery stores or malls.
You don’t know the people at the grocery store.
You know the people you go to school with, you see them everyday.
You’re connected to them, for better or for worse.

As someone who troubleshoots equipment all day I’m supposed to ask “Why” and find the root of the actual problem.
If something isn’t working, why?

There are school shootings, why? Because we have guns.
The question is then not “why did we let them have a gun”, because it’s been proven already that most guns used in crimes are obtained by illegal means. Nobody LET them have a gun, they TOOK one.
The question should be “Why did they want to do this in the first place?”

Guns are a tool used to facilitate the problem. They aren’t the root cause. If that were the case there’d be no vehicular homicide, no stabbing, no arson, etc.

And those are ALL problems in Australia as well.”, even without their guns.

The whole goal of gun control is to reduce mass shootings. The misconception is that it is meant to reduce what you have bold. The evidence is too little to support that at the time, but plenty of evidence shows gun control reduces the number of mass shootings significantly.

This case in Australia. First mass shooting in 20 years, four children dead. How many children are killed monthly in the U.S.? Let alone, in schools.


Also a look at the homicide rates in Australia since 1990:


This post was edited by tommyd323 on May 21 2018 12:08pm

Again, you can’t think emotionally here. It’s not feasible to produce a plan to take away guns from citizens.. Sensible gun control is mental health reform, not banning a particular style of gun.

E: it’s imbedded into our culture, albeit it’s a terrible culture, but it’s the American way.

This post was edited by ozzyarmy3 on May 21 2018 12:21pm

Agree with the bold. The second amendment isn’t going anywhere so a full gun ban won’t ever happen. Foreigners don’t understand.

Lol what does the general population need assault weapons for?

If you want to argue semantics, go ahead.. But I’ll be specific, it’s our given right as a United States citizen to bear arms.. You try and take away an americans rights, and it won’t go over well. Remember, our country was founded on traitors and rebels.

That's like saying "If it is broken, don't fix it". Makes zero sense.

Slavery was also imbedded in our culture... things can change. Not saying outlawing all guns or forcing citizens to turn guns in but more strict laws for purchasing guns could certainly be a step in the right direction

the mentally ill often ignore the symptoms and can/will flat out refuse to seek help & theres nothing you can do about it. their close friends/family may be too dumb to even notice something is wrong, or they just refuse to acknowledge it.

good luck getting all of these (COUNTLESS) people into facilities, and then getting them treatment that actually works looooool.

there are always going to be people who want to kill, so just make it as difficult as possible for them.

mental health "reform" will come with advancements in technology. you can cut down on the guns meanwhile... because you might be waiting forever.