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Apr 24 2016 12:24am
Guys cloudkicker is right here, have some logic. If a lifter is moving their one rep max as explosive as they could move a 10 rep max weight, then it's not that lifters true one rep max.
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Quote (cloudkicker @ Apr 23 2016 07:29pm)
http://muscle.ucsd.edu/musintro/props.shtml

The prime mover isn't performing maximally if a movement is done at high velocity. It's a fact of muscle physiology. If a movement is performed quickly you can squeeze more torque out


C'mon mayne don't you know my assumptions about physiology and energy are much more correct than science?
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Quote (RyanDyerProtein @ Apr 21 2016 09:46pm)
Because deadlifts is only the lift up, not the lift back down (like a squat and bench is both down and up)

The risk vs reward of lowering a heavy deadlift is not worth it

No good deadlifters ever lower their deadlift, ever, ever

Edit: i hope u see the correlation of u injurying yourself and trying to lower your deadlift




I disagree.
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Quote (Kaiceps @ Apr 24 2016 08:07pm)


Are you blind? He lowers it at the speed of gravity. Not 1 ounce of energy is used to lower those deadlifts slower than the speed its falling. Its a complete drop while maintaining contact with the bar

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Quote (Kaiceps @ Apr 24 2016 05:07am)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhzaUCx-amQ

I disagree.


r u srs? he's fuking dropping the weight... he's not gonna fucking let go of it cuz he's got wrist wraps on. That's how people drop their deadlifts..
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Quote (RyanDyerProtein @ Apr 24 2016 08:25am)
Are you blind? He lowers it at the speed of gravity. Not 1 ounce of energy is used to lower those deadlifts slower than the speed its falling. Its a complete drop while maintaining contact with the bar




This guy doing 750x5....

Took me 2 seconds to find this, I am sure there is plenty. Good deadlifters do lower. Both get done.

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Quote (Kaiceps @ Apr 24 2016 08:40pm)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhuPxk94Vg4

This guy doing 750x5....

Took me 2 seconds to find this, I am sure there is plenty. Good deadlifters do lower. Both get done.


Did u miss the deadlift suit? Do you even lift?

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Quote (RyanDyerProtein @ Apr 24 2016 08:50am)
Did u miss the deadlift suit? Do you even lift?


I see it, he still lowers the bar.
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Quote (Kaiceps @ Apr 24 2016 08:55pm)
I see it, he still lowers the bar.


His deadlift suit lowers the bar lol

Could he, or would he lower at that speed raw?

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Quote (RyanDyerProtein @ Apr 24 2016 08:25am)
Are you blind? He lowers it at the speed of gravity. Not 1 ounce of energy is used to lower those deadlifts slower than the speed its falling. Its a complete drop while maintaining contact with the bar


I didn't say all powerlifters should lower their bars slowly because they can. It is easier by far to do than the concentric portion of the rep, you see maybe 70 percent of the neural activity during an eccentric movement compared to a concentric movement at the same force, and eccentric movement is more metabolically efficient. Regardless you're still expending energy on the eccentric portion that could be saved for another (less than full) concentric contraction. Obviously if you're competing strictly for number of repetitions as in crossfit you don't want to worry about the eccentric component when you can let gravity do that work for you but you get the most bang for your buck from eccentric contractions in terms of muscle damage and satellite cell recruitment. They're best for muscle development and generate high levels of tension (much more tension than concentric movement). You should definitely incorporate them into training but depending on your type of performance you can pay variable attention to them
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