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Jan 25 2016 07:39pm
Quote (Zark @ Jan 25 2016 09:36pm)
Not only was he around others dudes, I think he banged them aswell.


i hear he did some g4p videos
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Jan 26 2016 05:02am
Quote (noob_whacker @ Jan 25 2016 09:39pm)
i hear he did some g4p videos



This is common knowledge lol
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Jan 26 2016 08:57am
Quote (orpimpin1201 @ Jan 26 2016 07:02am)
This is common knowledge lol


so should be his unnattiness but apparently thats not common knowledge

so idk what is and what is not anymore


wut is this youtube!
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Jan 26 2016 09:12am
Quote (noob_whacker @ Jan 26 2016 10:57am)
so should be his unnattiness but apparently thats not common knowledge

so idk what is and what is not anymore


wut is this youtube!
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The natty vs non natty debate will never be common knowledge. Because people have very different perceptions of what is possible with/without drugs. Half the people on here still take 30 different supplements because they think it will benefit them. The entire fitness industry is literally 99% con artists and people who will tell you anything to make a dollar. And if you think otherwise, you're one of the people who are willing to get scammed over and over.
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Jan 26 2016 12:53pm
Quote (Orakpo @ Jan 25 2016 06:00pm)
Bc he's my friend and I know him lol?

Don't be a retard

That doesn't mean shit. My point is that only the actual person themselves knows the truth behind their bodies, whether they did it naturally or not.

Just because he's your "friend" doesn't mean he's being honest. I'm just saying don't believe everything you hear, even if it's from someone you "trust".
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Quote (orpimpin1201 @ Jan 26 2016 11:12am)
The natty vs non natty debate will never be common knowledge. Because people have very different perceptions of what is possible with/without drugs. Half the people on here still take 30 different supplements because they think it will benefit them. The entire fitness industry is literally 99% con artists and people who will tell you anything to make a dollar. And if you think otherwise, you're one of the people who are willing to get scammed over and over.


yea

like rich piana or bostin loyd are open about usage. supposedly take large amounts and many different compounds. even though rich piana has said that people take too much and think more is better. then he goes ahead and posts his cycle and being large amounts....

so he may take those large amounts, may not. obvious hes taken shit though


u can still be small and look like shit, and be on cycle. genetics, diet, training, types of gear taken


like some people were sayin how ogus isnt that strong. its possible hes just a weak sissy, and its possible the gear hes taking isnt really meant as a strength gainer, so much as staying lean and putting on mass easier.
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Jan 26 2016 03:32pm
Quote (Tear @ Jan 25 2016 04:52pm)
so much easier to blame steroids on someone who has a great physique, than to credit it to hard effort.

he's sub 10% for like 3 months a year, thats a huge huge give away to tell people he's natural.
guys like jeff seid who put on 5-10 pounds in 1-3 years and stay sub 6% are the guys you should worry about claiming not natty


you still roiding?
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Jan 26 2016 04:05pm
people who start only stop for 2 reasons...

fuked up some hormones and shit and tryin to have kids

or ded

jk

people stop for other reasons ofc

This post was edited by noob_whacker on Jan 26 2016 04:06pm
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Jan 26 2016 07:24pm
Quote (noob_whacker @ Jan 26 2016 01:33pm)
yea

like rich piana or bostin loyd are open about usage. supposedly take large amounts and many different compounds. even though rich piana has said that people take too much and think more is better. then he goes ahead and posts his cycle and being large amounts....

so he may take those large amounts, may not. obvious hes taken shit though


u can still be small and look like shit, and be on cycle. genetics, diet, training, types of gear taken


like some people were sayin how ogus isnt that strong. its possible hes just a weak sissy, and its possible the gear hes taking isnt really meant as a strength gainer, so much as staying lean and putting on mass easier.


He's pretty fuking strong...
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Jan 27 2016 05:05pm
Tear, the ever vigilant steroid abuser and protector of those who haven't come out of the cabinet yet, hilarious.
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