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Sep 6 2015 06:18pm
Quote (noob_whacker @ Sep 6 2015 05:11pm)
ive tried to squat with just the bar

its MUCH different than squatting with weight


i would not suggest only using the bar unless u find it to be somewhat heavy... like a chick first starting to squat i guess

but for the most part, i feel like you need SOME weight on the bar to help it FEEL right when squatting to improve form

just so much different

with the weight on the bar it sort of makes u stabilize your body in a way that is hard to do with no weight


so should i not squat with only the bar?? i always warm up with the bar first.
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Sep 6 2015 06:20pm
Quote (noob_whacker @ 6 Sep 2015 20:11)
ive tried to squat with just the bar

its MUCH different than squatting with weight


i would not suggest only using the bar unless u find it to be somewhat heavy... like a chick first starting to squat i guess

but for the most part, i feel like you need SOME weight on the bar to help it FEEL right when squatting to improve form

just so much different

with the weight on the bar it sort of makes u stabilize your body in a way that is hard to do with no weight


throw a couple 45s on there. squatting or deadlifting less than 135lbs is for women and children
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Sep 6 2015 06:25pm
Quote (iGotThatFiyah @ Sep 6 2015 08:18pm)
so should i not squat with only the bar?? i always warm up with the bar first.


depends if u normally only go up to 25 lbs each side, then sure warm up with the bar

but if u normally squat 45lbs each side, then warm up with 25lbs each side

my warm ups consist of anything i can do 15 to 20 reps with ease and then be somewhat close to my limit

i personally dont like the idea of warming up with almost no weight at all... unless u do very slow and controlled movement, otherwise i feel like you dont really warm up.
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Sep 6 2015 07:08pm
Quote (noob_whacker @ Sep 6 2015 08:25pm)
depends if u normally only go up to 25 lbs each side, then sure warm up with the bar

but if u normally squat 45lbs each side, then warm up with 25lbs each side

my warm ups consist of anything i can do 15 to 20 reps with ease and then be somewhat close to my limit

i personally dont like the idea of warming up with almost no weight at all... unless u do very slow and controlled movement, otherwise i feel like you dont really warm up.


lol@you if you dont go straite to 2 plate squat as warmup
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Sep 7 2015 01:53am
Quote (Apoch48 @ Sep 6 2015 04:20pm)
honestly just squat 135 over and over until your form is perfect.

Or even just do bar only.

You wont get anywheres without good form.

and dont worry about the useless comments, just worry about correcting the form. Worry less about weight, more about correctness

GL and I am sure some of the seasoned vets would be more than willing to PM with you about form and shit


Can squat 135 np every time like 2 second setup it's a mental block not a form issue, I'll post up a vid when I get home to better iterate what I'm saying
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Sep 7 2015 07:29am
Your squat video gave me a solid chuckle. I've always considered you a troll, but since you put in the effort to post a video... I'll give some advice.

Quit fidgeting so much. Trust your form and squat the weight. Coming out and dancing around is going to get you hurt long before your squat will. Your form actually looks great, but the 30 second fidget session is a disaster.

Also, you're bringing the bar down too far towards your stomach on bench while utilizing zero leg drive. You're working against yourself and pushing from a weak position. Watch this video for good tips about the purpose of leg drive.



This post was edited by PureOwnage2 on Sep 7 2015 07:29am
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Sep 7 2015 08:33am
Quote (PureOwnage2 @ Sep 7 2015 01:29pm)
Your squat video gave me a solid chuckle. I've always considered you a troll, but since you put in the effort to post a video... I'll give some advice.

Quit fidgeting so much. Trust your form and squat the weight. Coming out and dancing around is going to get you hurt long before your squat will. Your form actually looks great, but the 30 second fidget session is a disaster.

Also, you're bringing the bar down too far towards your stomach on bench while utilizing zero leg drive. You're working against yourself and pushing from a weak position. Watch this video for good tips about the purpose of leg drive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoI1kvsCS9s



Good video. I'd drop the weight and get the bar path/control down. Hate for you to hurt yourself, few of those reps looked super wonky.
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Sep 7 2015 10:21am
keep it up turtol iso pnp program I start week 4 of my 5x5 but I'm modifying the squats 3 times a week per hnf advice
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Sep 7 2015 10:50am
Quote (Henchman21 @ Sep 8 2015 01:21am)
keep it up turtol iso pnp program I start week 4 of my 5x5 but I'm modifying the squats 3 times a week per hnf advice


I did pnp at the start of this year for a few months

I find RPE easy to understand in theory but hard to successfully implement.

I prefer having a set goal and aiming to achieve it
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Sep 7 2015 12:49pm
Quote (turtol @ 6 Sep 2015 22:39)
I'd honestly drop like a grand if someone could fix my squat problem forever.


Money first and I fix it npnpnp.

Quote (noob_whacker @ 7 Sep 2015 02:11)
ive tried to squat with just the bar

its MUCH different than squatting with weight


i would not suggest only using the bar unless u find it to be somewhat heavy... like a chick first starting to squat i guess

but for the most part, i feel like you need SOME weight on the bar to help it FEEL right when squatting to improve form

just so much different

with the weight on the bar it sort of makes u stabilize your body in a way that is hard to do with no weight


1) It's bad warming up with just the bar?

2) If you can't stabilize yourself without weight you need to fix your mobility/balance.
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