yup. felt like complete chit after, couldnt sleep til 5am LOL

gona use it like once a week max

Got my Gold Standard PWO two days ago, watermelon flavour. tastes delicious (like candy) but I don't feel any effect.

Lips felt a bit tingly the first time but the second time I'm pretty sure I felt nothing. Then again I trained at 2pm, after waking up tired at around 10am.

100 mg or 200mg of caffeine from pills before workout

simple and cheap

still have 6 cases of Original Jack3D and it is by far the best lol

6 cases, or 6 tubs of it? I always wanted to try some so hit me up I'll paypal you for a thing of it

Buy jack3d,
Buy dmaa

Put dmaa in new jack3d = profit?

Old c4 was Better than old jack3d when it had dmaa lolz.

Nitraflex> all

This post was edited by Boilermakers on May 22 2015 07:16am

I don't know the formulas and stuff. I used c4 2 years ago and it was good but I thiught jack3d was illegal before then

Either way I liked nitraflex it gave me to focus and pump but no crazy 0_0 feeling. Sometimes I'll walk in to the gym feeling super anxious cuz of too much caffeine

This post was edited by ug_warrior(xtc) on May 22 2015 12:30pm

dmaa got banned 4-5 years ago. C4 previous to the ban was excellent, Imo far better than jack3d. Now they're both garbage w/o dmaa.

I also just tried ON pwo and I felt next to nothing, and i have NO stimulant tolerance. I never have any stimulants.

Yeah been using it for some days now and feel not much at all. It tastes like liquid candy (yummy) so I'm not exactly complaining but today I had zero energy in the gym and the PWO certainly didn't do anything to help.