What do you think about ON Serious Mass

Serving size is one scoop and it contains 1200 calories.

Cytogainer 4 scoops serving size and 600 calories
I know it has more protien and less sugar though.

Just seems more logical to take ON Serious Mass for a hard bulk.

Hey, need help with a diet for cutting/toning.
im 5'7'', 135 lbs
btw do have protein
need any other info lmk
thanks very much

thanks man, and should i do this with all my bicep excersizes or just for concentration curls?

btw, i'll do what you told me tomorrow, cuz its arm day
thanks again!

What're your thoughts on nutrient-partitioning supplements like

Anabolic Pump
P-Slin
Slin-Sane
Animal MStak
Glycobol

first off, the serving size is "2 heaping scoops" and the scoops are HUGE. They are not the same smaller sized scoops that come with the cytogainer. You have to compare gram weight to gram weight. 334g weight is the optimum vs 1250 cal vs 150g cytogainer @ 570 calories. So basically they have virtually the same total caloric content gram for gram. (the scooper size is irrelevant).

As an overall product, I prefer cytogainer...mostly for the good fats and less sugar

if you are 5'7 135...you don't need to be cutting...there's no way your bodyfat is over 10% at your height/weight....you need a bulk...please read the last 5-10 pages of the thread and check up on the various bulking diets and workout routines I have posted

just with olympic or ez-bar curls, dont do it with DB curls

all show and no go.

so does anything actually help with carb uptake?

BCAAs = insulinogenic as fuck in the presence of 'dem carbs