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Mar 16 2010 07:59pm
Quote (Boxa @ Mar 17 2010 01:57am)
Was just ball parking it, but that still draws to the point of use the diet he gave you the first 2 times you twat.


Id rather it be on point, then a margin for error. I'm sorry I like to be as precise as I can.
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Mar 16 2010 11:08pm
Quote (str8rippinn @ Mar 16 2010 09:17pm)
Could you give me a sample cutting diet? I know you have one in a few pages back but I'm smaller than that. 5'11, 165lbs. If you could incorporate a whey shake, and creatine in it that would be awesome.


the cutting cycle I posted will be fine for you...

just take that cutting cycle and modify it for your caloric BMR (figure approx 1,800 cal a day intake)

as for shakes, you can have 2 a day...one at breakfast...and one post-workout.

as far as creatine...just take 2.5g pre and 2.5g post workout with grape juice or apple juice.
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Mar 16 2010 11:10pm
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Do you  know of any legal anti-estrogens?

I was looking at Novedex but it's on the banned list for my show. :/



legal anti estrogens...

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/anti-estrogentop.htm

as far as which ones are the best....you could try Chrysin and Tribulus stacked together. NOW! is a favorite brand of mine.
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Mar 17 2010 08:10am
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legal anti estrogens...

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/anti-estrogentop.htm

as far as which ones are the best....you could try Chrysin and Tribulus stacked together. NOW! is a favorite brand of mine.


This is the banned substance list :

http://gemcityclassic.hostjava.info/2fit2010/INBFBannedSubstancesList.pdf

Not sure what all I'm allowed to use as an anti-estrogen. I guess I got some softness under my breasts that I need to get rid of. :P

Also I hope my thermogenic (Precision Engineered Fireball LiquiFusion from Vitamin World) is allowed...

This post was edited by cseitz71690 on Mar 17 2010 08:13am
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Quote (cseitz71690 @ Mar 17 2010 10:10am)
This is the banned substance list :

http://gemcityclassic.hostjava.info/2fit2010/INBFBannedSubstancesList.pdf

Not sure what all I'm allowed to use as an anti-estrogen. I guess I got some softness under my breasts that I need to get rid of. :P

Also I hope my thermogenic (Precision Engineered Fireball LiquiFusion from Vitamin World) is allowed...


seems like you aren't allowed to use steroids, pro-hormones, or drugs.

there is no mention of most of the anti estrogens that I posted to you
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Quote (SKCRaynor @ Mar 17 2010 02:44pm)
seems like you aren't allowed to use steroids, pro-hormones, or drugs.

there is no mention of most of the anti estrogens that I posted to you



ALL HORMONAL PRECURSORS (DHEA, androstenedione; 19-norandrostenedione;
androstenediol; 5-AD; androstene-TRIONE; 17-androdione; etc.) are banned effective January 1,
2000. (Includes Novadex, Superdrol, Halodrol, Methyl-1, etc.)
NOTE: 7-Keto DHEA is NO LONGER banned (effective 6/1/07) by the WNBF.
ALL OTHER ADDITIONAL HORMONAL SUPPLEMENTS (6-OXO; 6-OXO-androstenetrione;
2a,17a-dimethyl-17ß-hydroxy-5a-androstan-3-one; 3, 17-keto-etiochol-triene; 1,4,6-androstatriene-
3,17-dione; 3-Alpha (5a-androstane-3a,17b-diol); etc.) have been identified as prohormonal in
nature as of January 1, 2004, and are banned effective January 1, 2004. (Includes Novadex,
Superdrol, Halodrol, Methyl-1, Forza-T, etc.
)
FAT-BURNING PROHORMONE DERIVATIVES such as 3,17-dihydroxy-delta-5-etiocholane-7-one
(A7-D), and 3,17-dihydroxy-delta-5-etiocholane-7-one diethylcarbonate (A7-E) are banned effective
January 1, 2007. (Includes Hot Rox, Fahrenheit, etc.)
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Mar 17 2010 07:54pm
Quote (SKCRaynor @ Mar 17 2010 05:08am)
the cutting cycle I posted will be fine for you...

just take that cutting cycle and modify it for your caloric BMR (figure approx 1,800 cal a day intake)

as for shakes, you can have 2 a day...one at breakfast...and one post-workout.

as far as creatine...just take 2.5g pre and 2.5g post workout with grape juice or apple juice.


Do you recommend any fruit smoothie type protein shakes i guess?

Like a strawberry banana whey smoothie?
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Mar 17 2010 09:20pm
I've had a few people tell me that if taking a fat burner, once you stop taking that fat burner, you tend to gain the fat back more easily. Is this true or just bs?
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Mar 18 2010 01:01am
Quote (str8rippinn @ Mar 17 2010 09:54pm)
Do you recommend any fruit smoothie type protein shakes i guess?

Like a strawberry banana whey smoothie?



what do you mean?? flavor wise? I'm confused by this question.

This post was edited by SKCRaynor on Mar 18 2010 01:04am
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ALL HORMONAL PRECURSORS (DHEA, androstenedione; 19-norandrostenedione;
androstenediol; 5-AD; androstene-TRIONE; 17-androdione; etc.) are banned effective January 1,
2000. (Includes Novadex, Superdrol, Halodrol, Methyl-1, etc.)
NOTE: 7-Keto DHEA is NO LONGER banned (effective 6/1/07) by the WNBF.
ALL OTHER ADDITIONAL HORMONAL SUPPLEMENTS (6-OXO; 6-OXO-androstenetrione;
2a,17a-dimethyl-17ß-hydroxy-5a-androstan-3-one; 3, 17-keto-etiochol-triene; 1,4,6-androstatriene-
3,17-dione; 3-Alpha (5a-androstane-3a,17b-diol); etc.) have been identified as prohormonal in
nature as of January 1, 2004, and are banned effective January 1, 2004. (Includes Novadex,
Superdrol, Halodrol, Methyl-1, Forza-T, etc.
)
FAT-BURNING PROHORMONE DERIVATIVES such as 3,17-dihydroxy-delta-5-etiocholane-7-one
(A7-D), and 3,17-dihydroxy-delta-5-etiocholane-7-one diethylcarbonate (A7-E) are banned effective
January 1, 2007. (Includes Hot Rox, Fahrenheit, etc.)


Novadex is NOT on the bodybuilding.com website.

nor are ANY of those supplements.
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