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Mar 11 2010 09:29pm
Quote (rrlegend1 @ Mar 11 2010 03:39pm)
hmm, do they come up in drug testing?

last question I suppose.. e-bol or leukic hardcore


depends on what kind of drug testing...for college sports and olympic sports yes....anything else it depends.

LMAO leukic? im sorry I had to laugh...AVOID ALL MUSCLETECH products - they have been proven time and time again to be frauds.

as far as e-bol goes...go for it...but I'd much rather recommend h-drol

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Mar 11 2010 09:31pm
skc y are u telling people to take phs..

aas>phs
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Mar 11 2010 09:47pm
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Hi

im 15 years old and been training for ~7 months on and off (4 months without stopping atm).My step mother doesnt want me to take whey protein supplement so she brought me to the nutritionist, the nutritionist told me things i already knew, but she told me i needed not more than 130 g of protein per day (when training-im 160 lbs btw).I was kinda surprised, i always tough i needed close to 185 g of protein per day.

do i really only need 130 g of protein per day ?



thats a common crock of bullshit. 130 g maybe for overall muscle sustenance...but if you want to build muscle and also stay lean...you'll need more than that. at least 200g / day...possibly more depending on your routine (cutting/bulking/maintenance)
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Mar 11 2010 09:48pm
Quote (Soad69 @ Mar 11 2010 11:31pm)
skc y are u telling people to take phs..

aas>phs


aas = illegal.

PH = legal


I can not condone the use of anything illegal in this thread. No illegal ph's have ever been recommended and certainly no help will be given for ANY ILLEGAL SUBSTANCE USE.

I don't agree with the ban on steroids or any substance for that matter...but that's entirely another issue. The law is the law, and I respect it even if I disagree with it.
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Mar 11 2010 09:56pm
Quote (serennia @ Mar 11 2010 09:48pm)
Would 50% prot/20% carb/ 30% fat would be good macros for someone slowly losing bf and gaining muscle?


not bad if you have a proper exercise routine...this would be a slow cut.

a proper cut is more like

60-65 / 5-10 / 30

but you can still achieve a good cut with your macros, as long as you eat the carbs only in the first 3 meals and no carbs 2nd 3 meals. also get at least 45-60 mins of cardio after each strength training routine, and train 6 days a week.
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Mar 11 2010 09:58pm
What's your opinion on cardio after an intense leg workout? I've heard many things about it being counterproductive and I was wondering what you think about it.
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Mar 11 2010 09:58pm
Sorry, just referring to:
Quote (SKCRaynor @ Mar 11 2010 10:47pm)
thats a common crock of bullshit. 130 g maybe for overall muscle sustenance...but if you want to build muscle and also stay lean...you'll need more than that. at least 200g / day...possibly more depending on your routine (cutting/bulking/maintenance)


How much protein for a cut?
I have a protein shake in the morning (30 g/1 scoop)
And a protein shake post workout (30 g/1 scoop)

And then I get some more from lunch/dinner not sure the amount though.
Should I up that to two scoops in the morning/pwo?
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Mar 11 2010 10:26pm
Quote (Mesonychid @ Mar 11 2010 11:58pm)
What's your opinion on cardio after an intense leg workout? I've heard many things about it being counterproductive and I was wondering what you think about it.


its fine...do the bike though, and take plenty of bcaa.
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Mar 11 2010 10:30pm
Quote (kbk @ Mar 11 2010 11:58pm)
Sorry, just referring to:


How much protein for a cut?
I have a protein shake in the morning (30 g/1 scoop)
And a protein shake post workout (30 g/1 scoop)

And then I get some more from lunch/dinner not sure the amount though.
Should I up that to two scoops in the morning/pwo?


for a cut, you'll need more protein to pick up the slack from lack of carbs....so at least 1.5-2g per lb per day.

30-45g at each meal max. any more than that isn't directly used but stored (for your bodyweight).

The key is to have 6 meals a day w/ approx 35g / meal = 210g

on a cut, do 45g which is 270g / day
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Mar 11 2010 11:40pm
where would u suggest power cleans go into in a routine? back day? leg day? 3x a week?
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