no you can definitely take the bcaa's and arginine...as long as you aren't taking them WITH food...doing so is useless. they are BEST on an empty stomach.

9 pills a day? God damn haha. Thanks though, ill def try this out.

For now, I just popped a mild laxative.

haha yeah. well it says to take 2-6 pills a day. i take 6-9. i need my fiber!

whole football team at school uses this supp called k4, and my friend asked me bout it but i wasnt sure.


k4 -

kre alk 1750mg per serving
di-arginine 500mg per s
alpha lipoic acid 100mg
vanadyl sulfate 20mg per serving

says take 1 serving a day or 2 for max benefits. i told my friend that taking pure creatine is the best way to go, but is this k4 worth it or jus another skimp vs optimized creatine?

What are the effects of a dieuretic?

its not proven and probably a waste of money.

Pure Creapure creatine (found in optimum nutrition micronized creatine as well as many other brands) is the best way to go.

besides purging excess water from the body?

it depends on the diuretic...

the one from animal cuts if u are familiar with the supplement

atm the only supps im using are:

fish oils
vitamin
all-the-whey protein
ON creatine
ON BCAA caps
Sup direct bcaa

im still cutting atm, but soon after i drop a couple more bf% i plan to bulk, got any more supp suggestions that can really help?

it mostly comes from dandelion root....it will only help shed some subcutaneous water from your body...no side effects.