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Feb 7 2010 04:04pm
thanks raynor! one more thing, i know you shouldnt go to the gym mroe then 5 days a week for rest etc, but what if im not so much interested in building that extra muscle, and more interested in cutting fat. Would going 6-7 days a week be more of a benefit to burn those extra calories?
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Feb 7 2010 05:26pm
Quote (SKCRaynor @ Feb 1 2010 12:36am)
Hello -

here is a re-post from about 10 pages back in the thread...this should help you a lot.

The key to overall fat loss is the following:

- Burn more calories than you take in

- eliminate sugar and simple carbs from your diet

- reduce carbs overall, and increase protein

- eliminate fast foods and frozen foods

- eat every 2-3 hours

- drink water or diet soda only (or any sugar-free, calorie free beverage)

- drink alcohol as rarely as possible

- get at least 8 hours of sleep a night!!

- Take fat burning supplements like BSN Atrophex, GAT Jet Fuel, or Nutrex Lipo-6



Good overall foods -

Protein - Lean meats like Chicken, turkey, tuna, fish, eggs, lean beef.

Complex Carbs - Whole Grains(all of them, like whole grain breads/pasta/brown rice, etc), Vegetables, legumes.

GOOD fats - Olive Oil, Nuts, Peanut butter, fish, OMEGA 3-6-9 supplements, avocados, etc.


You are going to want to take in approx 2,000 calories a day for your bodyweight - in addition to at least 1 hour of vigorous exercise per day (anything, running/pushups/pullups/situps/swimming/aerobics/etc)

You are going to want to get about 60% from protein, 15% from carbs, and 25% from good fats. READ THE LABELS OF WHAT YOU ARE EATING and keep a FOOD JOURNAL so you can add everything up.

MAKE SURE YOU ARE EATING EVERY 2-3 HOURS (SMALL MEALS)

In addition, make sure you do at least ONE HOUR of exercise each day. Cardiovascular activity like running, jogging, swimming, playing a sport, using a cardio machine at the gym, or lifting weights WITHOUT taking breaks...are all acceptable. See the exercise guide for more info.



FOOD NOT TO EAT!
(DO NOT EAT THESE FOODS, OR IF YOU EAT THEM, DO IT VERY RARELY!)

Fast Food – Avoid Fast food at all costs. However if you go into a fast food restaurant and you’re hungry…try to make some healthy decisions. For example, instead of a burger with fries – get a grilled chicken sandwich or a grilled chicken salad without the fries....fries are a waste calories.

SODA – DO NOT DRINK REGULAR SODA AT ALL! Instead drink diet soda if you really like it…but if not, then stick to ice water!

Pizza – sorry, but this is one of the things you really have to watch out for. Avoid!

Candy, desserts, and Ice Cream – Just don’t eat it =) it’s loaded with sugar and no nutrition at all!

Frozen food – typically has way too much sodium and bad nutritional value!

Canned Foods and Soups (including ramen) – Also has way too much sodium and virtually no nutrition.

Dark Chocolate – you can eat 1-2 ounces of dark chocolate per day and actually see lower body fat as a result. But don’t overdo it! Too much and it can start adding weight.

EAT CLEAN!!! THAT MEANS AVOID PROCESSED FOODS, SALT/SODIUM, SUGAR, SAUCES, ETC. All spices are fine except for salt.

KEEP A FOOD JOURNAL!! WRITE DOWN EVERYTHING YOU EAT AND TALLY YOUR TOTAL CALORIES/FAT/PROTEIN/CARBS/SUGAR/SODIUM AT THE END OF EACH DAY TO MAINTAIN PROGRESS!



Sample meal plan (No carbs after your 2nd meal each day)


Meal 1 – 1 bowl of whole grain cereal (or oatmeal) w/ 2% skim milk + 2 whole eggs
Meal 2 – chicken/turkey/tuna w/ 1 cup brown rice
Meal 3 – chicken or lean beef or fish on top of a salad
Meal 4 – chicken, turkey, tuna/fish with steamed veggies
Meal 5 – lean beef/steak or fish + veggies.
Meal 6 – 1 cup cottage cheese or glass of milk + mixed nuts.

You will want about 100g carbs, 250g protein, and 70g fat per day which = about 2,000 calories (perfect for a 200 lb man on a moderate cutting routine doing 1 hr of exercise per day - for every 10 extra lbs of body mass, add 100 calories per day in a 1g / carbs, 4g / protein, 1g / fats ratio)


for exercise, stick to 1.5 hours of intense physical activity each day - whether it be lifting weights/doing cardio, playing a sport, running/cycling, etc - you need to keep your heart rate in the target zone of about 135-140 BPM for a 15-30 yr old male in good health. Don't worry about HIIT or any complex activities for now, just stick to the basics to lose the basic fat you both are asking for.


Just read this- this is what I'm looking for, many thanks ^^
And on the same page (298) someone made a post about getting quicker to whick you responded do quick jerks upwards and slowly on the release. What sort of movement should this be? I'm thinking leg lifts to target the quads?
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Feb 7 2010 09:53pm
alright man..... he goes gonna be a toughy.. haha.... im 18 years old...5'11.... i weigh 197 lbs...... i have lifted weights in the past and i never really got to where i wanted to be i previously started a diet, and it helps me lose weight but i dont know if im getting all the nutrients i need during the day... i need help.

I need these things if possible.

- A Workout Plan
- Diet Plan

Im going to be training to be an mma fighter next month, i got offered to be trained so i wont pass up the opportunity. I need to train to get ready. Lemme know what you think and your views on the matter.

Thanks,

Dave

This post was edited by Dtell on Feb 7 2010 09:53pm
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Feb 7 2010 11:36pm
Quote (sanders_916 @ Feb 7 2010 06:04pm)
thanks raynor! one more thing, i know you shouldnt go to the gym mroe then 5 days a week for rest etc,  but what if im not so much interested in building that extra muscle, and more interested in cutting fat. Would going 6-7 days a week be more of a benefit to burn those extra calories?


6 days a week for cutting is perfect.
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Feb 7 2010 11:37pm
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Just read this- this is what I'm looking for, many thanks ^^
And on the same page (298) someone made a post about getting quicker to whick you responded do quick jerks upwards and slowly on the release. What sort of movement should this be? I'm thinking leg lifts to target the quads?


any exercise in which you are recreating the movement you want to get faster in...for jumping, do explosive squats....for punching, do explosive dumbbell presses and cable punches.....for lunging...do explosive dumbbell lunges...etc.
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Feb 7 2010 11:40pm
Quote (Dtell @ Feb 7 2010 11:53pm)
alright man..... he goes gonna be a toughy.. haha.... im 18 years old...5'11.... i weigh 197 lbs...... i have lifted weights in the past and i never really got to where i wanted to be i previously started a diet, and it helps me lose weight but i dont know if im getting all the nutrients i need during the day... i need help.

I need these things if possible.

- A Workout Plan
- Diet Plan

Im going to be training to be an mma fighter next month, i got offered to be trained so i wont pass up the opportunity. I need to train to get ready. Lemme know what you think and your views on the matter.

Thanks,

Dave



hey there dave..PLEASE read the post right above yours...it has a diet plan of mine posted from a few pages ago.

as for exercise...PLEASE refer to this ::::

5x5 PLAN for Strength and Size

The 5x5 plan is basically 5 reps for 5 sets of a particular exercise for most days. Other exercises will be 5 sets of 8-12 reps. You will do at LEAST 20 total sets per day. It will be used in the following manner for 5x5:

Set 1 – 5 reps of 50% max weight
Set 2 – 5 reps of 55% max weight
Set 3 – 5 reps of 60% max weight
Set 4 – 5 reps of 65% max weight
Set 5 – 5 reps of 75% max weight

So if you can bench press 155 lbs for 1 rep, your set would look like this –
Set 1 – 77.25 (rounds up to 80) [155 x 50%]
Set 2 – 85.25 (rounds down to 85) [155 x 55%]
Set 3 - 93 (rounds up to 95) [155 x 60%]
Set 4 - 100.75 (rounds up to 105) [155 x 65%]
Set 5 – 116.25 (rounds up to 120) [155 x .75]


In order to determine your max, however, grab a spotter at the gym, and load up weight until you can only do 1 unassisted rep. That is your 1-rep max from which you will be able to get your 5x5 plan started.
Don’t forget, its best to use a spotter no matter what, but if you can’t the 5x5 is fine to do without one. As for the 5x8-12, you will do moderately heavy weight for optimal burn and pump.
I realize you will be only doing a Mon/Weds/Fri split – but I have itemized your routine for all 5 days should you choose to do that. If you are doing just a 3 day plan – you will have to split Chest/Back as well as Shoulders/Arms.


Day 1 (Monday) - Chest
• Bench Press - 5 sets of 5 reps
• Incline Bench Press - 5 sets of 5 reps
• Decline Press - 5 sets of 5 reps
• Cable Crossovers – 5 sets of 8-12 reps (do not use 5x5 for this!)
OTHER CHEST EXERCISES INCLUDE: Dumbbell Bench Press, Incline Dumbbell Bench Press, Dumbbell Decline Bench Press, Dumbbell Flies, Pec Deck, Weighted Pushups, Wide Chest Press, Overhead extensions. You can use any of these exercises instead of the 4 I have mentioned if you want to change it up or have difficulty doing any of those 4.

Day 2 (Tuesday) - Back
• Barbell Deadlift - 5 sets of 5 reps
• Lat Pulldown - 5 sets of 5 reps
• Seated Cable Row - 5 sets of 5 reps
• Dumbbell Rows - 5 set of 8-12 reps
OTHER BACK EXERCISES INCLUDE: Lower Back Extensions, Underhand High Cable Rows, Rack Pulls, Good-Mornings, Dumbbell Deadlifts, Close-Grip Pulldowns, or Barbell Rows. You can use any of these exercises instead of the 4 I have mentioned if you want to change it up or have difficulty doing any of those 4.

Day 3 (Wednesday) – Legs
• Barbell Squats - 5 sets of 5 reps
• Seated Machine Leg Extensions - 5 sets of 5 reps
• Seated Machine Leg Curls - 5 sets of 5 reps
• Standing Calf Raises 5 sets of 8-12 reps
• Seated Calf Raises 5 sets of 8-12 reps
OTHER LEGS EXERCISES INCLUDE: Dumbbell leg lunges, Leg Hip Abbduction Machine, Leg Hip Adduction Machine, Laying leg curls, Front Squats, 1 Leg Squats. You can use any of these exercises instead of the 4 I have mentioned if you want to change it up or have difficulty doing any of those 5.

Day 4 (Thursday) - Shoulders
• Military Press - 5 sets of 5 reps
• Dumbbell Shoulder Shrugs - 5 sets of 8-12 reps
• Dumbbell Shoulder Presses - 5 sets of 5 reps
• Dumbbell Front Raises - 5 sets of 8-12 reps
OTHER SHOULDERS EXERCISES INCLUDE: Lateral Dumbbell Raises, Barbell Shrugs, Arnold Presses, Straight Bar Cable Pulldowns, Herculean Pulls. You can use any of these exercises instead of the 4 I have mentioned if you want to change it up or have difficulty doing any of those 5.

Day 5 (Friday) - Arms
• EZ-Bar Curls - 5 sets of 8-12 reps
• Dumbbell Concentration Curls - 5 sets of 8-12 reps
• Olympic Bar Curls - 5 sets of 5 reps
• Weighted Dips - 5 sets of 5 reps
• Tricep Cable Pulldowns - 5 sets of 8-12 reps
• Dumbbell Tricep Kickbacks - 5 sets of 8-12 reps
OTHER SHOULDERS EXERCISES INCLUDE: Lateral Dumbbell Raises, Barbell Shrugs, Arnold Presses, Straight Bar Cable Pulldowns, Herculean Pulls. You can use any of these exercises instead of the 4 I have mentioned if you want to change it up or have difficulty doing any of those 5.

Day 6 – (Saturday) Rest
Day 7 – (Sunday) Rest
NOTE::: Every other day at the gym (3 days a week) you will be doing abs!! You will need to work into your schedule 100-200 reps of ab workout into 20-25 rep sets.
Ab exercises:
Crunches, Hanging Leg Raises, Broomstick Twists, Roman Chair Situps, V-Crunches, Decline Situps, & Knee Raises.

IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO DO A PARTICULAR EXERCISE MENTIONED ABOVE…GO TO THIS WEBSITE: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/exercises.htm

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Feb 8 2010 11:17am
Hi there Raynor, ive seen the advice youve given to others before and im sure you can help me out with a problem im going to face tomorrow.
Im going to work fulltime for 8 months, its something i have to do for school.
I want to keep hitting the gym for 4 times a week, and make sure i eat well.
Right now im eating 3 meals after i come back from the gym but i wont have that much time left after coming back from the gym when working full time so i need your advice on my ammount of carbs taken after working out.

I take about 40 grams of protein each meal and more fat later during the day so i can get all those carbs in during afternoon and such. Right now it looks like this:
7:30 - 100 gr carbs
10:00 - 75 gr carbs
12:30 - 65 gr carbs
15:00 - 100 gr carbs
-workout-
17:00 - 100 gr carbs
19:00 - 80 gr carbs
22:30 - 0 gr carbs

Thing is, i wont be able to work out that early anymore and will need to move a meal that i have in the evening to the afternoon. Im working from 8:30 to 17:30 and my food plan will look like this:
7:15 - 100 gr carbs
10:00 - 75 gr carbs
12:45 - 65 gr carbs
15:30 - 65 gr carbs
18:15 - 100 gr carbs
-workout-
20:00 - 100 gr carbs
22:30 - 0 gr carbs

I still need to take in a decent ammount of carbs after working out, but around what time should i plan these and how many should i take? im around 14% bodyfat weighing a bit under 180lbs. Im taking a total of 4400/3600 kcal every day depending on training or rest day. I need this ammount to gain a little weight but i want to maintain 14% fat and dont go over this. Im affraid of gaining fat when adding too many carbs before going to bed, ill go to bed after my last meal to get some solid hours of sleep as recovery.

Thanks in advance!
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Feb 8 2010 01:05pm
Quote (wouter040 @ Feb 8 2010 01:17pm)
Hi there Raynor, ive seen the advice youve given to others before and im sure you can help me out with a problem im going to face tomorrow.
Im going to work fulltime for 8 months, its something i have to do for school.
I want to keep hitting the gym for 4 times a week, and make sure i eat well.
Right now im eating 3 meals after i come back from the gym but i wont have that much time left after coming back from the gym when working full time so i need your advice on my ammount of carbs taken after working out.

I take about 40 grams of protein each meal and more fat later during the day so i can get all those carbs in during afternoon and such. Right now it looks like this:
7:30 - 100 gr carbs
10:00 - 75 gr carbs
12:30 - 65 gr carbs
15:00 - 100 gr carbs
    -workout-
17:00 - 100 gr carbs
19:00 - 80 gr carbs
22:30 - 0 gr carbs

Thing is, i wont be able to work out that early anymore and will need to move a meal that i have in the evening to the afternoon. Im working from 8:30 to 17:30 and my food plan will look like this:
7:15 - 100 gr carbs
10:00 - 75 gr carbs
12:45 - 65 gr carbs
15:30 - 65 gr carbs
18:15 - 100 gr carbs
      -workout-
20:00 - 100 gr carbs
22:30 - 0 gr carbs

I still need to take in a decent ammount of carbs after working out, but around what time should i plan these and how many should i take? im around 14% bodyfat weighing a bit under 180lbs. Im taking a total of 4400/3600 kcal every day depending on training or rest day. I need this ammount to gain a little weight but i want to maintain 14% fat and dont go over this. Im affraid of gaining fat when adding too many carbs before going to bed, ill go to bed after my last meal to get some solid hours of sleep as recovery.

Thanks in advance!



Hey there - I would recommend to make your post workout carbs only approx 30 grams fast digesting carbs (simple carbs/sugars) and then eliminate carbs all together after that to avoid unnecessary fat gain. Pre-workout 100g carbs is also pretty high and unnecessary - you can reduce it to 50g and that also should help (make sure these are all complex carbs)

make sure to take bcaa's before bed and during exercise
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Feb 8 2010 01:53pm
Just an idea here... have you thought about making a comprehensive "guide" where you could list general plans for Bulking, Cutting, and the diets for each of those? You could put in whatever calculations you use and then use this thread for additional more specific questions. Have something of an "ideal guide" that people could refer to so you don't have to answer the same thing over and over again here.
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Feb 8 2010 02:59pm
Quote (SKCRaynor @ Feb 8 2010 08:05pm)
Hey there - I would recommend to make your post workout carbs only approx 30 grams fast digesting carbs (simple carbs/sugars) and then eliminate carbs all together after that to avoid unnecessary fat gain. Pre-workout 100g carbs is also pretty high and unnecessary - you can reduce it to 50g and that also should help (make sure these are all complex carbs)

make sure to take bcaa's before bed and during exercise


ty, where shall i put the remaining carbs tho?
cuz ill surely lose weight if i drop so many.
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