Quote (Decarnate @ Jan 25 2017 10:00pm)

So many kids that I grew up with were given everything to them on a silver platter... fast forward 10+ years, half of them still live at home with mommy and daddy. My parents sacrificed their best years to afford keeping my bros and I in a good neighborhood with a good school system.. despite their careers not exactly measuring up to the typical income of most others. I learned at an early age the meaning of working hard to achieve goals.. but that environment was still like poison to me.

It wasn't until after high school and living independently that I started to see how the real world was, and I realized that I needed to escape this trap that my generation was getting sucked into.. Enter the military. The military gave me the structure and discipline that I lacked, trying to be like everyone else I grew up with. I feel like that is a major component that most of today's youth needs, with the way modern parenting and technological distractions have become. I would strongly support an action that mandates a minimum of 2 years of service, post high school/pre-college.

Maybe there is a better way, but the youth of today is just cringe worthy on so many levels. It reached the point where I had to remove myself from all social media outlets.. and honestly, doing so was just as liberating as moving away from home when I was younger.

Quote (cloudkicker @ Jan 26 2017 08:30am)

There have always been subsets of the population that were "cringe worthy". Don't forget that those of us who come from a solid childhood probably met a biased selection of individuals (parents, family, friends of parents etc) with relatively outstanding or above average morality and work ethic to base our judgements of past generations on. Odds are that our parents, who knew their generation better than we do, would find that there are similar numbers of poorly behaving kids now than in their day.

Also consider that comparing a current young, naive generation to an older generation in the same absolute time scale, people change and grow over time even later in life. Who is to say that current entitled youth won't come to the same conclusions as the well brought up folks, just over a larger period of time. Maybe when they get to be our parents age they will have realized that if they want shit to get done they need to work for it?

Quote (IsilDuRRR @ Jan 25 2017 03:54pm)

Let me give you an easy example of why you're right about that.


http://media.breitbart.com/media/2015/03/radical-feminist-640x480.jpg


Sometimes the book's content is all over its cover - and a book's cover is becoming an increasingly viable way to judge inner character with how narcissistic and superficial this society is becoming. Many people are now so predictably eager to display whatever virtues they want to signal using their: Apparel, hairstyles, even mannerisms. To be honest, at this point I have to ask how old you you?

You sound like you're quite out of touch and naive, if you haven't gained the ability to quickly judge a person by his or her "cover" by now. This is a standard ability that almost everyone has now and the idea that people are so much deeper than their surface appearance is a very outdated concept that has been long debunked. Of course, this doesn't mean that you automatically mistreat someone based on your prejudice. It just means that you are able to use statistics and probability to quickly prepare yourself mentally for how to deal with the type of things this person is most likely to throw at you - if they surprise you by being an outlyer, that's okay too.



Also to answer your question about statistics - I'm talking about the statistics which can determine how likely it is that you will be able to easily attract workers with good character in the future.

At the rate of societal decline, it will be extremely unlikely that within the next decade.. you will be able to even find individuals who aren't going to be narcissistic, brainless, lazy and entitled. Especially when talking about lower level jobs, like admin assist or Mcdonald's burger flipper. The turnover rate for jobs like these for reasons of bad character (SHows up late, has an attitude, living at home so doesn't give a fuck etc.) is unbelievably high with this generation.

Quote (Wretch @ Jan 26 2017 07:34am)

i'm 27 and your post basically confirms my beliefs. from your words i can tell you are a narrow-minded know-it-all, and i don't even know what you look like.

you could be 20 years old and super clean cut, or 50 years old and look like a slob, it wouldn't matter because i'd have you pinned after a 5 minute conversation either way.

now go on about the upsides of being judgmental, i ain't hearing it.

Quote (IsilDuRRR @ Jan 26 2017 09:52am)

I'm a narrow-minded know it all? Why - because I pay attention to what actual research data says about the averages in society?

lolwut


You may be 27, but you have the mind of an old man. The minute I come at you with facts you can't deny, you get all defensive and start erecting walls around yourself, afraid to look like an idiot instead of being eager to learn. Like tbh, I don't think you even know what you're arguing against right now, do you? You also seem to have bad reading comprehension issues, as well since you missed the parts where I make it pretty obvious multiple times, that you should never let statistics cloud your ability to give a person at least one chance to prove themselves.

Quote (Wretch @ Jan 26 2017 01:18pm)

i know quite a bit about those numbers, being a sociology major. regardless, sociology is a pseudoscience.

but oh man, i couldn't have asked for a more perfect example of a "narrow-minded know it all" if i specifically asked.

still, just because you're statistically one of the flock in d2jsp's collective, archetypical personality doesn't mean i'm gonna assume the next user is, as well.