Quote (cloudkicker @ Mar 2 2016 09:11pm)

If all of you vote for me ill move down from Canada and run for president, and do a better job than trump

Quote (bnrhodes2 @ 3 Mar 2016 12:10)

I wanted Paul. His shit made the most sense to me.

Being that I am not for social equality, Bernie isn't my choice. Sorry, I don't like the idea of 'free' shit for a people who are generally less motivated and less responsible (that is not the case for all, but it is for a majority) - if you want something, work for it, research, change your circumstances, don't blow your money on stupid shit. I know that people like the argument of how it works in some small European countries with free education and great healthcare, but that doesn't do much for me either. That argument is about as useful as saying a single state in the USA is better than another state - regulating a few million people of similar mindset and culture is a whole lot different than regulating hundreds of millions of people in the whole congregate of a gigantic and diverse country . Plus, he doesn't really have much of a chance because of the superdelegates that are with Hillary. And I want nothing to do with Hillary.

With the remaining that are available, given what I said above, I only have Trump left (as a white male with ambitions of being in the 1%, there isn't much for me to fear in him). We are screwed regardless of what happens, unless congress gets in a nice change as well. The whole establishment isn't really set up to be overly productive, regardless of the figure head. But, I do know that if I have to pay more fucking taxes, I will probably have a melt down.

Quote (LeSausage @ Mar 2 2016 12:09pm)

Gary johnson

Quote (bnrhodes2 @ 2 Mar 2016 21:10)

I wanted Paul. His shit made the most sense to me.

Being that I am not for social equality, Bernie isn't my choice. Sorry, I don't like the idea of 'free' shit for a people who are generally less motivated and less responsible (that is not the case for all, but it is for a majority) - if you want something, work for it, research, change your circumstances, don't blow your money on stupid shit. I know that people like the argument of how it works in some small European countries with free education and great healthcare, but that doesn't do much for me either. That argument is about as useful as saying a single state in the USA is better than another state - regulating a few million people of similar mindset and culture is a whole lot different than regulating hundreds of millions of people in the whole congregate of a gigantic and diverse country . Plus, he doesn't really have much of a chance because of the superdelegates that are with Hillary. And I want nothing to do with Hillary.

With the remaining that are available, given what I said above, I only have Trump left (as a white male with ambitions of being in the 1%, there isn't much for me to fear in him). We are screwed regardless of what happens, unless congress gets in a nice change as well. The whole establishment isn't really set up to be overly productive, regardless of the figure head. But, I do know that if I have to pay more fucking taxes, I will probably have a melt down.

Quote (Boilermakers @ Mar 2 2016 08:49am)

LOL sounds about right. Moving to Canada if he wins

Quote (Patches @ Mar 2 2016 11:24am)

the thing is.. if USA burns, our country will burn as well

Quote (bnrhodes2 @ Mar 2 2016 09:10pm)

I wanted Paul. His shit made the most sense to me.

Being that I am not for social equality, Bernie isn't my choice. Sorry, I don't like the idea of 'free' shit for a people who are generally less motivated and less responsible (that is not the case for all, but it is for a majority) - if you want something, work for it, research, change your circumstances, don't blow your money on stupid shit. I know that people like the argument of how it works in some small European countries with free education and great healthcare, but that doesn't do much for me either. That argument is about as useful as saying a single state in the USA is better than another state - regulating a few million people of similar mindset and culture is a whole lot different than regulating hundreds of millions of people in the whole congregate of a gigantic and diverse country . Plus, he doesn't really have much of a chance because of the superdelegates that are with Hillary. And I want nothing to do with Hillary.

With the remaining that are available, given what I said above, I only have Trump left (as a white male with ambitions of being in the 1%, there isn't much for me to fear in him). We are screwed regardless of what happens, unless congress gets in a nice change as well. The whole establishment isn't really set up to be overly productive, regardless of the figure head. But, I do know that if I have to pay more fucking taxes, I will probably have a melt down.

Quote (tommyd323 @ 3 Mar 2016 14:08)

PAUL: With regard to the idea of whether you have a right to health care, you have realize what that implies. It’s not an abstraction. I’m a physician. That means you have a right to come to my house and conscript me. It means you believe in slavery. It means that you’re going to enslave not only me, but the janitor at my hospital, the person who cleans my office, the assistants who work in my office, the nurses.

Basically, once you imply a belief in a right to someone’s services — do you have a right to plumbing? Do you have a right to water? Do you have right to food? — you’re basically saying you believe in slavery.

I’m a physician in your community and you say you have a right to health care. You have a right to beat down my door with the police, escort me away and force me to take care of you? That’s ultimately what the right to free health care would be.

^^ Yeah Paul seems like a smart guy :rofl:

Go ahead and explain how what Bernie proposes is magically free? Generalize and say most people are lazy and blow their money on dumb things as if that is the cast for the majority is such a wild statement. Do you think poor people like living in poverty? Bernie's proposal opens the playing field, so everybody can have a chance at college without huge student debt.

Why would you not want these benefits (from our taxes) to work for all the people? People always attack forms of social welfare these "handouts" we give. Those people know so little on corporate welfare it seems. The taxpayer pays for Walmart and Mcdonald's employees, but they'd never deserve a living wage, right?

Quote (tommyd323 @ Mar 2 2016 09:08pm)

PAUL: With regard to the idea of whether you have a right to health care, you have realize what that implies. It’s not an abstraction. I’m a physician. That means you have a right to come to my house and conscript me. It means you believe in slavery. It means that you’re going to enslave not only me, but the janitor at my hospital, the person who cleans my office, the assistants who work in my office, the nurses.

Basically, once you imply a belief in a right to someone’s services — do you have a right to plumbing? Do you have a right to water? Do you have right to food? — you’re basically saying you believe in slavery.

I’m a physician in your community and you say you have a right to health care. You have a right to beat down my door with the police, escort me away and force me to take care of you? That’s ultimately what the right to free health care would be.

^^ Yeah Paul seems like a smart guy :rofl:

Go ahead and explain how what Bernie proposes is magically free? Generalize and say most people are lazy and blow their money on dumb things as if that is the cast for the majority is such a wild statement. Do you think poor people like living in poverty? Bernie's proposal opens the playing field, so everybody can have a chance at college without huge student debt.

Why would you not want these benefits (from our taxes) to work for all the people? People always attack forms of social welfare these "handouts" we give. Those people know so little on corporate welfare it seems. The taxpayer pays for Walmart and Mcdonald's employees, but they'd never deserve a living wage, right?