man i honestly can't believe you ever thought panda was natty LOL

this is him and another natty claimer ulysses beside kai green..
they look like they could be sitting on the same olympia stage together lmao


NOT TO MENTION, thats green's off season size.



This post was edited by Tear on Sep 13 2015 08:34pm

but he said he was natty :'(

I try so hard to defend you because I actually thought you were misinformed but now I legitimately think you're retarded

Llol at deadlifts

this video is good.

my opinion is ogus is probably natty.
jeff seid not even a little bit.
and the hodge twins not at all.

Never really looked into people who were unnatural no clue what was/wasn't possible without gear

very little people here know anything about gear.
only about a handful or so of us have used it.

too many unaware people spew broscience on the subject here.

people do this cuz they loose sponsors and shit if they openly talk about it....

and dont listen to everything u hear, especially for the internet...

do the sponsors know they're on gear?



I have no idea what anyone's physique looks like on this site hahaha

1st of all, we got a post ur progress thread, not every1 posts there, but some... can see their physique there...

2nd of all, their sponsors prob know or dont care, as long as they represent their company well, and if they talk about them being on gear it can set a bad image for them. people often have a negative view on gear. and are pretty naive about it. they dont understand alot. so they make assumptions as im sure u have made and do make...

if the person is open about their use, id assume the company would be upset, then people might be less likely to think its cause of their supplement and shit they sponsor, and people blame the gear. other stuff too, its illegal to use it. so if they open about criminal activities, then bad image as well.

go to around 10:35 and watch for 15 seconds funny lol



This post was edited by noob_whacker on Sep 13 2015 09:26pm