d2jsp
Log InRegister
d2jsp Forums > Off-Topic > Sports Coliseum > Health & Fitness > Pot?
Prev123456Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll
Member
Posts: 1,225
Joined: Sep 19 2014
Gold: 291.00
Warn: 10%
Sep 21 2014 02:29pm
Quote (Balla @ Sep 19 2014 01:29am)
Eh, there's some interesting effects but nothing worthy of concern in regards to metabolism & weight loss. Well, that's at least assuming you don't stay constantly high for most of the day.. then I could perhaps see deleterious effects.

In general, the biggest concern w/ cannabis use is simple hyperphagia (ravenous hunger) due to a robust rise in ghrelin levels + direct hypothalamic AMPK expression, both of which drive hunger. It does actually increase leptin, however, leptin isn't a judge of the acute satiety response, so paroxysmal hunger prevails. Ergo, by far the biggest cause of concern is simply consuming excessive calories consistently.

Other effects that MAY be deleterious to certain metabolic processes, include things like possible acute decrease in t3/t4 as a result of attenuated TSH production. It also may interact directly w/ mito CB1 receptors to repress mitochondrial complex 1 activity.. this may acutely and ephemerally decrease respiration rate. On the flip-side, it'll also decrease ROS prod, so it may be positive, depending (one of the reasons it's neuronally protective).
Interestingly, it inhibits neuronal NE release, yet induces sympathetic activation to very acutely augment metabolic rate & ventillation rate.. this may inhibit insulin secretion (apart from obvious direct CB1/CB2 direct transduction effects of decreasing intracellular Ca2+ induced exocytosis) . Seeing as how NPY will drive a strong CHO craving, this could cause some glucose intolerance, though I'm just surmising as to significance here. Logically flowing from SNS outflow, it also increases HR via impeding vagal tone, another aspect of a metabolic rate rise. Despite some of the potential noxious insulin perturbations, however, cannabis will inhibit 15-LOX, which has actually been shown to play an exorbitant role in obesity-induced beta cell destruction and diabetes development.

As far as direct adipocyte effects, it has potential to directly repress lipolysis via Gi coupled GPCR signaling which would decrease HSL, ATGL, and increase perilipin activation. It also may augment lipogenesis via SREBP induction, which then works through various lipogenic enzymes. However, I'm not sure if it's a direct activation or simply a reciprocal type of signaling (aka repression-activation & vice-versa).

Much of the effects seem to almost negate each other in terms of either increasing or decreasing metabolism via various mechanisms. This is much of the reason I'd say all in all - you're fine with pretty consistent use. I'd still advise against heavy use (ie multiple times per day, chronically) due to tentative deleterious ramifications and general neuronal issues that could occur over time (generally reversible but not worth the hassle). In either case, also given very robust homeostatic mechanisms employed by the body (much of the effects are likely simply a counterregulatory pathway), coupled with the highly ephemeral effects anyway, I'd say you're fine. It shouldn't have a bearing on weight loss apart from hyperphagia induced caloric excess.


no1 is going 2 read taht m8

no1 care about ur sh*t advise
Member
Posts: 30,461
Joined: Nov 12 2007
Gold: 748.53
Sep 21 2014 02:32pm
Quote (Ralf999 @ Sep 21 2014 04:29pm)
no1 is going 2 read taht m8

no1 care about ur sh*t advise


Whoa
You seem upset
Member
Posts: 22,128
Joined: Mar 6 2010
Gold: 276.00
Sep 21 2014 04:07pm
hey hey hey




smoke weed every day
Member
Posts: 16,021
Joined: Sep 17 2008
Gold: 40.00
Sep 21 2014 04:18pm
Quote (Balla @ Sep 20 2014 02:54am)
Just know.. I know most of this stuff in quite a lot of detail. If you want me to dumb it down or want specific clarification, just ask and I'll remove jargon for you.



Maybe. I'm really not sure. Taking MCAT this Jan, so in feb I'll know where I stand and where I even should apply lol


Gl man. Know it's tough as hell.

Kill that MCAT

4 of my senior year roomates applied, all relatively smart and only 2 got in

This post was edited by MrBobMarley on Sep 21 2014 04:19pm
Member
Posts: 30,461
Joined: Nov 12 2007
Gold: 748.53
Sep 21 2014 05:16pm
Quote (MrBobMarley @ Sep 21 2014 06:18pm)
Gl man. Know it's tough as hell.

Kill that MCAT

4 of my senior year roomates applied, all relatively smart and only 2 got in


Thanks m9
I feel pretty good about it simply from taking classes and remembering most of it

Gonna be taking the last MCAT for this current one on Jan 23, after that it changes. That'll give me about 5 1/2 weeks over winter break to directly study for it alone. Not very long compared to normal study plans, but eh.. I don't even really need to study or hardly review the entire biology and verbal reasoning sections.. just a bit on chem/ochem. Mostly just in physics largely.

I'm excited to finally take the next step in my life though (post mcat ofc)
Member
Posts: 26,994
Joined: Oct 6 2007
Gold: 3.38
Sep 21 2014 08:34pm
Quote (ViviLOL @ Sep 19 2014 06:52pm)
You should apply to some UC's in california, they're pretty gg too.


UCs are pretty tough to get into. I'm at UCLA right now and to get into their medical program I'd need about a 36 on the MCAT if my GPA stays around a 3.6.
Member
Posts: 23,532
Joined: Mar 23 2008
Gold: 0.00
Sep 21 2014 09:00pm
Quote (Mesonychid @ Sep 21 2014 09:34pm)
UCs are pretty tough to get into. I'm at UCLA right now and to get into their medical program I'd need about a 36 on the MCAT if my GPA stays around a 3.6.


most cali students end up going to OOS private institutions

too many premeds/not enough med schools in cali from what i have seen

This post was edited by Bubbler on Sep 21 2014 09:01pm
Member
Posts: 1,486
Joined: Apr 17 2012
Gold: 60.00
Warn: 10%
Sep 22 2014 05:30am
Balla,

Is there any evidence that pot negatively effects REM sleep?
Member
Posts: 26,292
Joined: Sep 15 2005
Gold: 30.01
Sep 22 2014 05:46am
Quote (kylefrc @ Sep 21 2014 12:20pm)
Other way around , workout, smoke, eat
Relax the muscles chill out then feed


i don't like to even eat at all... i always end up overeating lol
Member
Posts: 32,674
Joined: Apr 7 2008
Gold: 22.50
Sep 22 2014 11:16am
Quote (TheMagicFlightBox @ 22 Sep 2014 07:30)
Balla,

Is there any evidence that pot negatively effects REM sleep?


^

i always sleep much better when i smoke indica... i'd hope Balla isn't trying to sleep on sativa but that could be the case
Go Back To Health & Fitness Topic List
Prev123456Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll