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Jan 3 2010 02:26am
Hi Raynor,
I hope this hasn't been asked loads of times, but in any case, I'll ask again!
How inadvisable would it be to drink milk with every meal on a bulk? How much effect on metabolism speed does it in reality have?

I'm just asking cause I thought it'd be an easy way to add some calories into a diet.
Thanks again!
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Jan 3 2010 04:18am
Quote (tricycle @ Jan 3 2010 04:26am)
Hi Raynor,
I hope this hasn't been asked loads of times, but in any case, I'll ask again!
How inadvisable would it be to drink milk with every meal on a bulk? How much effect on metabolism speed does it in reality have?

I'm just asking cause I thought it'd be an easy way to add some calories into a diet.
Thanks again!



This actually has been used for many years as a simple and cheap way to bulk. I would only recommend it if you can't afford a proper bulking diet.

The milk will act as a slow acting protein and as a result keep your metabolism fast (if you are eating frequently)...not slow. However, milk fat and milk protein has an adverse effect on some people...and can result in rapid fat gain, sinus problems, or even digestive problems.

I would not overdo anything...but if you really have no other option (money wise) it's not terrible for a bulking option.
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Jan 3 2010 10:37am
Quote (SKCRaynor @ Jan 3 2010 03:58am)
YOUR MODIFICATIONS HAVE BEEN MADE BELOW - PLEASE TAKE NOTE:

3 whole eggs
1 cup oatmeal
2 tbsp PB
1 piece of fruit
water

1 can tuna
2 tbsp mayo
2 egg whites
1 bottle 100% fruit juice + water

7oz hamburger
2 cups whole grain pasta
1/2 cup spaghetti sauce
1 cup green veggies
water

8oz chicken
1 large sweet potato
1 cup green beans
water

2x protein shakes - post workout and possibly in place of a meal or in addition to your meal plan

40 g protein
2 tbsp PB
10 g glutamine
1 cup apple juice (not before bed though)
1/2 cup oats (not before bed though)

Before bed:

1 cup cottage cheese
handful mixed nuts
cinnamon
water


This is my routine :

Monday - Back/tris/calves
Tuesday - Chest/bis/abs
Wednesday - OFF
Thursday - AM Quads/PM Hams/calves
Friday - Shoulders/abs
Saturday - Bis/Tris/forearms
Sunday - OFF


Doesn't look too bad, wish I could follow this though. :P
Don't think my trainer would like if I didn't listen to him (if you know where I'm coming from) haha
I might switch the pasta and take the bottle of tea out @ the 5th meal.

This is my bulking diet I guess you could say. I think I'm gonna start cutting for the show in mid-February. The date is May 15th.
He works with Hany Rambod which is always a plus.

Just curious, have you done any BB shows/PL meets lately? Or do you plan on doing any soon? :)

I'm also doing cardio for 20 minutes after each weight training session, except leg day and Sunday. Wednesday I just go in at a random time. Lol

3.0-3.5mph @ 6.0 incline for 20 minutes
I guess I don't really need to on a bulk, but I figured it will help me stay a little bit leaner. :P

This post was edited by cseitz71690 on Jan 3 2010 10:39am
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Jan 3 2010 06:18pm
Hey skc, any thoughts on 4 week cut cycle i'm gona do :)
j/w if you think anything is particularly odd/flawed, goals/details etc are at bottom
Meal 1
5eggs/2 slice cheese, 1 turkey slice
31fat,47protein,4carb

Meal 2
Chicken Salad- 2 tbsp olive oil-
28gram fat, 42 protein

Peri workout
25gram whey pre workout, 5gram bcaa, 5 gram creatine
20gram bcaa intra workout
50gram whey Post workout, 5gram bcaa, 5gram creatine, 50gram carb(increase by 10 each week)


Meal 3-
Turkey burger w/ cheese, vegetable +olive oil, 4 gram fishoil, 1 turkey slice
46 protein, 1 carb, 29 gram fat

Meal 4
1cup cottage cheese, 2 tbsp nat peanut butter, 1/3 scoop protein, 5gram fishoil
29fat,43 protein,12carb


totals
252 protein,117 fat, 25gram trace carb, 0-80 carbs post workout (starting out at 50 for week 1, increasing by 10 each week)
2161 Calories w/o pwo carbs.

Goal was 2050 calories(205 lbs) + postworkout carbs, hit 2161 but whatever not competing or doing a serious cut. Doing this for 4 weeks as a 'mini diet' to try and stay lean between bulking periods.

. Working out 5 days a week, on non workoutdays i'll just have the periworkout protein #s and no carbs, BCAAs will be spread throughout the day and still 10gram creatine.

Will eat as many green veges as wanted, not counting calories from them (mostly spinach+broccoli+lettuce). May lower fat as i add carbs not sure.

This post was edited by ant885 on Jan 3 2010 06:19pm
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Jan 3 2010 09:39pm
Hey there!

I am 5'11 and 210 pounds. I do workout 3-5 times a week but dont have a specific plan to follow. I usually just do muscle building and would like to work on my cardio for the up coming Rugby season. Thanks a lot. - Soldier999.

If there are any questions please pm me.
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Hey skc, any thoughts on 4 week cut cycle i'm gona do :)
j/w if you think anything is particularly odd/flawed, goals/details etc are at bottom
Meal 1
5eggs/2 slice cheese, 1 turkey slice
31fat,47protein,4carb

Meal 2
Chicken Salad- 2 tbsp olive oil-
28gram fat, 42 protein

Peri workout
25gram whey pre workout, 5gram bcaa, 5 gram creatine
20gram bcaa intra workout
50gram whey Post workout, 5gram bcaa, 5gram creatine, 50gram carb(increase by 10 each week)


Meal 3-
Turkey burger w/ cheese, vegetable +olive oil, 4 gram fishoil, 1 turkey slice
46 protein, 1 carb, 29 gram fat

Meal 4
1cup cottage cheese, 2 tbsp nat peanut butter, 1/3 scoop protein, 5gram fishoil
29fat,43 protein,12carb


totals
252 protein,117 fat, 25gram trace carb, 0-80 carbs post workout (starting out at 50 for week 1, increasing by 10 each week)
2161 Calories w/o pwo carbs.

Goal was 2050 calories(205 lbs) + postworkout carbs, hit 2161 but whatever not competing or doing a serious cut. Doing this for 4 weeks as a 'mini diet' to try and stay lean between bulking periods.

. Working out 5 days a week, on non workoutdays i'll just have the periworkout protein #s and no carbs, BCAAs will be spread throughout the day and still 10gram creatine.

Will eat as many green veges as wanted, not counting calories from them (mostly spinach+broccoli+lettuce). May lower fat as i add carbs not sure.



This is actually a very good anabolic diet. I would also recommend trying 3 jet fuel each morning coupled with 20-30 mins of morning cardio before breakfast if you are attempting to lean down more quickly between bulking cycles. The post workout carbs should be dextrose, waxy maize, or if you are cutting corners and saving money...try 12 oz of pure grape juice mixed with your creatine.

You can eat as many raw green veggies as you want and not count them, they are primarily fiber, water, and chlorophyll.

The fat must remain high when carbs are low...but yes as the carbs increase, fat must lower. But never below 70g / day. Any less than that and you are severely impacting your body's ability to produce sufficient testosterone.
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Jan 4 2010 12:37am
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Hey there!

I am 5'11 and 210 pounds. I do workout 3-5 times a week but dont have a specific plan to follow. I usually just do muscle building and would like to work on my cardio for the up coming Rugby season. Thanks a lot. - Soldier999.

If there are any questions please pm me.



yes heres a question...what exactly are you asking me or trying to do? You didn't ask me a question, you merely told me a little about yourself lol.
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Jan 4 2010 02:05am
chicken or beef bouillon
frozen mixed vegetables
water

cottage cheese
pitted prunes
water

can of tuna + green louisiana jalapeno hot sauce
water

raisins + pecans + V8 low sodium + raw almonds
water

salad or popeye spinach
water

can of pink salmon + green beans
water



Please tell me what is the best order to eat my meals, thank you so much.

I'm in this cycle atm 6 on 1 off cardio + 3 on 4 off dumbbells

I do cardio first thing when I wake up with empty stomach, when should I start dumbbell exercises

Would you suggest some basic dumbbell exercises that I could research and learn, that you feel is absolutely necessary for the average person starting out
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Please tell me what is the best order to eat my meals, thank you so much.

I'm in this cycle atm 6 on 1 off cardio + 3 on 4 off dumbbells

I do cardio first thing when I wake up with empty stomach, when should I start dumbbell exercises

Would you suggest some basic dumbbell exercises that I could research and learn, that you feel is absolutely necessary for the average person starting out


Below are the changes to be made.
It doesn't matter what time you do your strength training exercises...as long as you've eaten at least 1 meal prior.
As for dumbbell exercises, please go to www.bodybuilding.com, click on super site, and type in dumbbell exercises into the search bar - you will find hundreds to choose from.



Meal 1 - Eggs or any lean meat (chicken, turkey, tuna) + oatmeal or brown rice + 1 fruit
Meal 2 - can of tuna + hot sauce + spinach or salad (raw greens) + 1 fruit
meal 3 - lean beef + mixed veggies
meal 4 - can of salmon + green beans
meal 5 - 1 lean meat (chicken, turkey, tuna) + 1 green veggie + 1 handful of nuts
meal 6 - 1 cup cottage cheese + handful mixed nuts

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Jan 4 2010 12:03pm
The other day, about 2 weeks ago I took a bronkaid (spelling) and then I looked yesterday at the banned substance list for my show. Ephedra is in bronkaids. I asked my trainer and he told me to stop taking them, I figured I'd ask for your input though.

It didn't even do anything for me, or at least didn't seem like it did (guess I need to take caffeine with it or something) :idk:

But yeah, just curious about it. Can't have ephedra in my system within 6 months of the show and the show is May 15th... :O
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