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Aug 27 2008 01:35pm
Quote (SKCRaynor @ Wed, Aug 27 2008, 02:29am)
hey there...to make a long story very short - in order to really hit your abs correctly...you'll need to work them at LEAST every other day (better to 5-6 days on 1 off for abs). anyway hit them at different angles each day...and do roughly 150-200 reps each day split up into 20-25 rep sets. Try roman chair situps, incline situps, hanging leg raises, v-crunches, and alternating situps to name a few. Abs are sometimes the hardest part to train properly...but frequency and intensity are key.


Why do you need to do them so often? Every artical I see they only do them 1-3 times a week. And you dont do 200 reps on other muscles, what makes them so much better than other body parts?

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Anddddddddd, what obliques excerises do you recommend?

This post was edited by 7_Deadly_Sins on Aug 27 2008 03:11pm
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Aug 27 2008 02:53pm
Hey if it isnt to much to ask i got a couple things i need some advice for first ill tell u my status and what not to get you a idea about me and how i am

some pictures below
Weight 175
Height 5'11
Age 16
Lifting for 4-5 Months
Lifting serious and with some knowledge for 2 months

I dont have a diet nor what i should be eating and how much i should be eating
i need some advice how much calories and protein i should be eating a day and examples of good daily meals i could maybe go out and buy and take to stay healthy

I dont wanna eat so much i get fat i wanna stay Cut always and i no bulking is a step for bodybuilding but i dont ever wanna really bulk at the moment im in my teens wanna look fresh biggrin.gif

If there is any good supplements you would advise it be nice to know what those are to like vitamins or protein stuff
i dont wanna buy any useless and pointless things

so main things im asking is
1: what do you think i should be eating on a daily basis and examples of meals and stay cut at the same time well eating these dont wanna gain any body fat
2: what supplements should i ge
t

Thanks biggrin.gif


These were taken about 2months ago weighting at 165 i gained alot of muscle by then


yup my backs weak in this photo but its alot fresher now that i been doing more back i use to never do it

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Aug 27 2008 05:40pm
Quote (7_Deadly_Sins @ Wed, Aug 27 2008, 03:35pm)
Why do you need to do them so often? Every artical I see they only do them 1-3 times a week. And you dont do 200 reps on other muscles, what makes them so much better than other body parts?

Edit:
Anddddddddd, what obliques excerises do you recommend?



hey there - glad you asked!

first of all, there is a long and short answer for this:

short answer - abs are the core of the body and along with calves and forearms are stubborn to grow. They require massive stimulation to see any tangible gains compared to other major muscle groups like chest/back/etc.

long answer - abs work as stabilizers for all other muscle groups of the body. Abs (just like calves) are used with virtually every step or action we make. Because of this, they have a natural resistance against growing and undertaking exceptional stress. As a result, these muscles need absolutely focused attention to see dramatic, fast, solid gains. A great example would be bodybuilders like Jay Cutler and Markus Ruhl. They have gigantic, well developed, symmetrical abs which are primarily from entire 30-60 minute workouts (sometimes even a seperate 60 minute pillates session to focus on further abs). These ab workouts are conducted 4-6 times a week!


as far as obliques go - the three best exercises are as follows - standing hip flex with cable machine (stand up straight, grab a low handle from the cable machine, load a little weight - with the handle at your side bend your torso shoulder towards the floor and come back slowly)
also, if available, there is a machine by hammer strength specifically for obliques that allows u to make a twisting motion while on your knees...very good machine. If this is not available - weighted broomhandle twists are fantastic (they make weighted sticks - an olympic bar works also - mount it on your back like you're going to do squats....then twist side to side)
lastly, alternating crunches to the left and right (just like alternating leg raises) will assist in developing fantastic obliques!
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Aug 27 2008 05:42pm
Quote (vandel123 @ Wed, Aug 27 2008, 04:53pm)
Hey if it isnt to much to ask i got a couple things i need some advice for first ill tell u my status and what not to get you a idea about me and how i am

some pictures below
Weight 175
Height 5'11
Age 16
Lifting for 4-5 Months
Lifting serious and with some knowledge for 2 months

I dont have a diet nor what i should be eating and how much i should be eating
i need some advice how much calories and protein i should be eating a day and examples of good daily meals i could maybe go out and buy and take to stay healthy

I dont wanna eat so much i get fat i wanna stay Cut always and i no bulking is a step for bodybuilding  but i dont ever wanna really bulk at the moment im in my teens wanna look fresh biggrin.gif

If there is any good supplements you would advise it be nice to know what those are to like vitamins or protein stuff
i dont wanna buy any useless and pointless things

so main things im asking is
1: what do you think i should be eating on a daily basis and examples of meals and stay cut at the same time well eating these dont wanna gain any body fat
2: what supplements should i ge
t

Thanks biggrin.gif





hey there, I pm'd you and will help you on there =)

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Aug 27 2008 06:26pm
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Aug 27 2008 08:07pm
Quote (SKCRaynor @ Thu, Aug 21 2008, 04:09am)
Hey there...some great fat burners are the following::

BSN Atrophex (less heart racing, and displeasing sensations)
German American Jet-Fuel (Very hardcore...makes your heart race...works the best but some displeasing effects)
Lipo-6 (least hardcore of the 3, very safe...mildly effective, good overall)

anyway...no they will not have any effect on ur growth at all, they are stimulants and vasoconstrictors...which lead to faster metabo, increased body temp, and faster heart rate.


I'd start with the BSN atrophex and work from there =D


decided to try out german american jet-fuel.


wondering what the displeasing affects are

http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2641972&cp=&kw=german+american+jet+fuel&origkw=german+american+jet+fuel&sr=1

also is this the product?

This post was edited by d4v1dxl33 on Aug 27 2008 08:18pm
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Aug 27 2008 09:48pm
It comes down to this... i am a tall light guy... im 6'2 about 150 Im pretty lean... my metabolism has to be amongst the fastest in the world because i could eat crisco with a serving spoon and not worry about bf. I would like to put on a bit more muscle mass mean while keeping as clean cut as i am now. Currently i am a lazy shit but have been hesitantly hitting the gym amongst working a fairly physical job. I would love to know if theres a way i can cram a rounded workout into say a 4 day regiment. If you know of any suppliments that could help me out i would love to hit a goal weight of about 180 so just 30 lbs or so while staying lean. I eat fantastic, the significant other makes me eat my veggies but im big on beef, fish, and venecine... sorry if my post seems all over the place but im sure u get the gyst of what im asking.

Thanks,
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Aug 28 2008 02:32am
Quote (d4v1dxl33 @ Wed, Aug 27 2008, 10:07pm)
decided to try out german american jet-fuel.


wondering what the displeasing affects are

http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2641972&cp=&kw=german+american+jet+fuel&origkw=german+american+jet+fuel&sr=1

also is this the product?



hey there - yes thats the product - but I wouldn't buy from GNC. Order from www.bodybuilding.com and save urself about 20 bucks!!! =)

also...the effects can tend to be the following::

Palpitations, sweating, nervousness, an overall feeling of restlessness, and nausea.

However, its rare...and I only get that when I take more than 2 pills at a time.
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Aug 28 2008 02:41am
Quote (eagleANTH @ Wed, Aug 27 2008, 11:48pm)
It comes down to this... i am a tall light guy... im 6'2 about 150 Im pretty lean... my metabolism has to be amongst the fastest in the world because i could eat crisco with a serving spoon and not worry about bf. I would like to put on a bit more muscle mass mean while keeping as clean cut as i am now. Currently i am a lazy shit but have been hesitantly hitting the gym amongst working a fairly physical job. I would love to know if theres a way i can cram a rounded workout into say a 4 day regiment. If you know of any suppliments that could help me out i would love to hit a goal weight of about 180 so just 30 lbs or so while staying lean. I eat fantastic, the significant other makes me eat my veggies but im big on beef, fish, and venecine... sorry if my post seems all over the place but im sure u get the gyst of what im asking.

Thanks,
Anthony



hey there - the absolute fastest and easiest way for you to reach your goals is the following::

1. if you can only work out 4 days a week - try to hit the traditional growth split cycle for amatuers like this:

mon - chest/back
tues - legs
thurs - shoulders/arms
fri - calves/forearms/abs


do roughly 20-30 sets each time you go...with about 3-5 sets per exercise. Stick to basic exericses like bench press, deadlift, lat pulldowns, squats, barbell curls tricep pulldowns, etc. Try to hit 8-12 reps of each set with moderate weight, gradually going heavier with each set.


2. Supplementation - BUY CYTOSPORT CYTOGAINER!!! DRINK 2 CYTOGAINERS EVERY DAY WITHOUT FAIL (preferably before and after workouts). These weight gainer shakes are amazing and will definitely help you bulk up.

3. As far as diets go...try to eat as much as possible while still maintaing a 45% protein 45% carb 10% fats content. Eat clean...but eat as much as you can handle. This is the only solution for hardgainers.

Hope this helps!!
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