No pain, no gain. :-/

Deadlifting -


What exactly is the correct form? Do you happen to have a video I could watch to get it? I've seen so many different ways with different opinions..


Also, if I do not wish to do deadlifts due to medical conditions, namely a previously hyrnieted [sp raped..] and ruptured disc, are there any exercises that could supplement it?

Thank you :]

Partial deadlifts work well.
BHGR's
Hyper Extensions
Stiff Leg Deadlifts
I will try finding a video on youtube or something for you. Don't worry SKC, I'm not taking over your thread..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-O_MT72rck&feature=related

This post was edited by cseitz71690 on Aug 25 2008 07:34pm

what is your opinion about that exercice : http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance/mondays_with_thibs_the_voyer_shrug_1

Do you think it could harm your rotators?

Traditionnal shrugs > those ?

Thx!

(Just to let you know, you got sticky-ed'!!! Gratz )

One more question, do you do neck exercises?

Hey there....it is both my professional and personal opinion - and the opinions of all the bodybuilding/powerlifting/strongman greats that the best kind of shrug is the traditional barbell shrug to the front or to the back. Also intersperse dumbbell shrugs to the sides in order to hit every possible angle of your traps. The exercise on t-nation while it might be a little different, is most likely nothing better than the good old 3 diff methods of shrugging.





Yes I do...my only two neck thickening exercises are done with a mesh and velcro helmet which attaches to my head and has a line come down off of it in order to attach a weight plate. From there I bend forward and pull my neck all the way back then let it go forward slowly and repeat. The other exericse I do is leaning backward - pulling my head forward then slowly letting it go backwards - these in conjunction with traditional shrugs will definitely build up the neck thoroughly!

Thanks - I hope this helps

Hey there - if you have a herniated disc in your back....avoid deadlifts at all costs!! (at least for now) Build up your back with all other important back exercises first - (cable rows, dumbbell rows, barbbell rows, High rows, lower-back hyperextensions, etc.) You must build up your back slowly and safely before attempting deadlifts which are the 2nd most dangerous exercise to perform at the gym (cleans being the first).

However the best deadlift method if you have an injury is to go light, use a smith machine, and lift from about 6-8 inches off the ground rather than flat on the ground. Use mostly legs at the bottom and square away and pull with your back only at the top. This is the easiest and safest deadlift method and will put the least ammount of stress on your lower back while still developing the overall back.

Hope this helps!

lol semi-true =p


no BURN no gain....working through the true feeling of PAIN is an injury waiting to happen. If you've ever watched WSM competition...you'll see all the greats...when they attempt a weight and feel pain they drop it right away. They know that a 2-3 year recurring injury isn't worth 2 extra points in their competition. Same goes for anybody training at the gym....a long lasting injury is not worth saying "hey I lifted xxx today and hurt myself".

Burn and torment are fantastic...true pain is bad.

background info

I'm about 6 weeks into my current program, i'm trying to clean bulk as hard as i possibly can, 4 or 5 days a week in the gym

Well its working alright i suppose, i've gained almost 10lbs but i'm not seeing as much gain in strength as i would like to.

If you're wondering i'm 17, 6'2", 170lbs...working out for maybe 5 months (2 seriously). '

Now i don't want my bf skyrocketing but i have cut out cardio and am eating as much as i possibly can (healthily) to assist my bulk

my routine: http://www.leehayward.com/workout_programs/

tl;dr...my question

I've noticed that the program's split is kind of mixed each day and i'm not feeling enough of an ab workout with it

so, do you recommend i switch to another (more traditional split) or just modify the one i'm currently on and if so how could i improve upon it


Thanks alot for the help!

hey there...to make a long story very short - in order to really hit your abs correctly...you'll need to work them at LEAST every other day (better to 5-6 days on 1 off for abs). anyway hit them at different angles each day...and do roughly 150-200 reps each day split up into 20-25 rep sets. Try roman chair situps, incline situps, hanging leg raises, v-crunches, and alternating situps to name a few. Abs are sometimes the hardest part to train properly...but frequency and intensity are key.