I'm looking to continue cutting body fat while putting on muscle.

In that case I'd approach it like this:

breakfast shake (if you opt for one)- muscle milk

pre-workout shake - Now or Optimum 100% whey isolate

post-workout shake - Now or Optimum 100% whey isolate

pre-bedtime shake - Optimum 100% casein

you need to fix your stupid fucking diet

nigga feels gross if his pwo meal is bigger than a tomato and 12 peanuts

This post was edited by Honestly on Oct 23 2009 08:01am

there's really nothing better than ON whey?

You ever figure out what % of conc and iso you getting from ON, lmk when you do.

NOW! 100% whey isolate and Optimum 100% whey isolate are both extremely pure and relatively inexpensive....thus why i recommend both.

If you are looking for a better tasting protein.....try adding 1/2 scoop muscle milk to 1.5 scoops of ON or NOW!

I have checked countless times and never been able to find a definitive answer. Someone needs to chem analyze an entire tub to find out exactly how much whey concentrate and whey isolate make up 1 tub of ON 100% whey.

Didn't mean you. But yea, that's one reason why I don't use them..I'm sure we'd be surprised how much is iso/conc is in one tub.

even if they used a majority of isolate and the rest conc and a sprinkle of hydro, its still somewhat lower quality stuff if you look @ the cholesterol and compare to other legit whey

(all the whey isolate has 0% cholesterol and their concentrate has 7% in a serving, their conc/iso blend has 4% in a serving)

optimum has 10% cholesterol in a serving...

just sayin'

Right...I don't care for taste, I can chug it down if need be.
and I don't care about cost.
I'm looking for the absolute best product.

If that means getting a complete iso/hydrowhey mix from tp...so be it.

But I'm looking to really optimize the intake I get from the shake as I'm flirting with what's probably an unhealthy caloric deficit so I'm looking to get the most out of the calories that I do intake.

and while I'm aware that I should be taking in more calories, mentally I'm at a point where that's just not going to happen.