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Aug 16 2008 10:33pm
Quote (sardoniclysane @ Fri, Aug 15 2008, 02:53pm)
*lean lb of bodyweight


no...per pound....not lean pound.

a 300 lb man (even if only 150 lean pounds) still needs more calories for his basal metabolism...this is scientific fact.

Instead of getting it from carbs (terrible), or more good fat (not so bad, but not necessary beyond 100g), he will get it from protein...aka 1.5g per lb of WEIGHT...not lean mass.

sorry but you are wrong...also I don't appreciate you trying to step in at every corner and correct me...troll another thread.
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Aug 16 2008 10:35pm
Quote (Pocket @ Fri, Aug 15 2008, 05:25pm)
odd question, but it had me thinking

u know how ur suppose to eat 6-8 meals a day every 2-3 hours of 275-400 calories right?

now, i am under the impression that if u follow that regimen than, your metabolism will increase dramatically, and you will start to burn a lot more fat, and barely protein if you are on a good diet.

suppose you were on a bad diet and still did the 6-8 meals of 350 calories every 2.5 hours...if you were to eat shitty food, could u possibly still loose weight, just because of the calorie amount...?

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hey there...not exactly...reason is because the good quality food provides you the proper macronutrients that your body needs without the excess sugar/sodium/carbohydrates - etc. When you eat shitty food in the same caloric content, you are getting much less protein and high density lipids (good fats) and more sugars/simple carbs. Avoid this at all costs.

However...eating more frequently helps increase metabo, no matter what ;-)
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Aug 16 2008 10:37pm
Quote (bnrhodes2 @ Fri, Aug 15 2008, 11:28pm)
u mentioned lipo 6 above..i bought it like a week ago and i was wondering what i should expect from it in a 2 month cycle? i only want answer from ppl that have used it and NOT PEOPLE WHO WILL SAY STUPID SHIT...I've heard its effective and i know that things work differently for everyone but what should i expect...like a ballpark figure


2 month proper cycle of lipo-6 (used correctly...morning and pre-workout) will most likely yield a grand total of about 5 lbs / month more loss than without any kind of stimulant. Really all that lipo-6 or any other "fat burner" does is increase metabo with simulants like caffeine, guarana, synpherine, etc. This causes your body temperature to rise, your heart rate to increase, and eventually your basal metabolism increases as well. You will lose more fat...but don't except anything winstrol-like ;-) 5 lbs/ month extra...tops.
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Aug 17 2008 05:11pm
Thats cool man! I hope for you that you stay away from steroids and all that bullshit.
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Aug 17 2008 06:19pm
Quote (Vikernes @ Sun, Aug 17 2008, 07:11pm)
Thats cool man! I hope for you that you stay away from steroids and all that bullshit.


Never used steroids...know many people who have.

The side-effects greatly outweigh the progress that you can achieve with non-steroidal products.

Plenty of supps exist that can assist with gains close to steroids without the damaging effects.
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Aug 17 2008 06:43pm
Quote (SKCRaynor @ Sun, Aug 17 2008, 12:37am)
2 month proper cycle of lipo-6 (used correctly...morning and pre-workout) will most likely yield a grand total of about 5 lbs / month more loss than without any kind of stimulant. Really all that lipo-6 or any other "fat burner" does is increase metabo with simulants like caffeine, guarana, synpherine, etc. This causes your body temperature to rise, your heart rate to increase, and eventually your basal metabolism increases as well. You will lose more fat...but don't except anything winstrol-like ;-) 5 lbs/ month extra...tops.


thats not exactly what i was hoping for haha...idk, i think im seeing some results already but idk..maybe its from something else im doing..who knows...im not exactly worried about the weight i drop...im not sure what 5lbs looks like lol..like with a loss of 5 or so pounds a month would i actually be able to see it when i look in the mirror haha?
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Aug 17 2008 11:24pm
N as much info on carb timing as you can give, espicaly in relation to bulking.
ty!
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Aug 18 2008 02:02am
Quote (bnrhodes2 @ Sun, Aug 17 2008, 08:43pm)
thats not exactly what i was hoping for haha...idk, i think im seeing some results already but idk..maybe its from something else im doing..who knows...im not exactly worried about the weight i drop...im not sure what 5lbs looks like lol..like with a loss of 5 or so pounds a month would i actually be able to see it when i look in the mirror haha?


5lbs of bodyfat a month is pretty big...thats 1.25 lbs of fat / week...believe me that's really good. A healthy man looking to cut shouldn't be losing more than 4lbs of fat / week. (3 without the fat burner supps).

Consider this. 200 lb man at 5'10 15% bodyfat. After 4 weeks, he's down to 184 lbs and about 11% - 2 months and he's at 168 nearly 7%.

A cutting cycle usually lasts 2-3 months...so yeah hope this helps dude =)

fat burner, esp like lipo-6 = 25% increase in fat loss.
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Aug 18 2008 02:09am
Quote (7_Deadly_Sins @ Mon, Aug 18 2008, 01:24am)
N as much info on carb timing as you can give, espicaly in relation to bulking.
ty!


hey man =D

as far as carb timing goes for bulking here's the best idea:

lets say you're hitting a 300g / carb day...

meal 1 - you want about 30g complex carbs (oatmeal or whole grains) and 20-30g simple sugar carbs (fruit/fruit juice).
meal 2 - continue with 50g whole grains.
meal 3 - (PRE-WORKOUT meal) 30g whole grains 20-30g simple sugar (fruit/fruit juice/natural sugar...not HFCS aka high fructose corn syrup).
[NOTE - if workout is longer than 2 hours, sip flat coke or eat some rolls while lifting to keep carbs up and prevent catabolism]
meal 4 - (POST-WORKOUT sugar) IMMEDIATELY INTAKE 20-30g simple sugar after a workout to spike insulin to achieve better protein synthesis and then continue with 80g whole grains/complex carbs as part of post-workout meal.
meal 5 - 50g complex carbs
meal 6 - little to no carbs before bedtime

hope that helps bro!

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Aug 18 2008 10:28am
okay..that did help a lot actually...thats more what i was looking for haha...thank you very much
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