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Quote (Balla @ Feb 23 2014 12:49am)
Eh I don't really agree with the last bit. I don't think any gut hormonal shift is necessarily beneficial, but overtime on a specific meal frequency, your body will adapt and shift rhythmic secretion of hormones, such as ghrelin. Like with IF, ghrelin becomes a bit lower during the early parts of the day vs normally eating then, but later in the day, you'll get large spikes of ghrelin reaching a zenith. This isn't "bad" or "good" but it does happen, and is probably intuitive if you think about it


I remembered the exact same thing when I went over that part.
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Jesus I thought it'd be a troll after the first one but there's actually some pretty sound advice
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Any literature regarding the existence of sarcoplasmic hypertrophy boys?

I'm looking for information about this but google is failing me. A friend of mine maintains only miofibrilar hypertrophy exists, and has sent me some study where they tested a bunch of untrained ladies with low reps and such bullshit. Any study to shut his mouth?

Besides the fact of the validity of his study of course, since they trained in like 4-6 rep ranges for squats and showed no greater intermiofibrilar space afterwards. No shit lol
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Any literature regarding the existence of sarcoplasmic hypertrophy boys?

I'm looking for information about this but google is failing me. A friend of mine maintains only miofibrilar hypertrophy exists, and has sent me some study where they tested a bunch of untrained ladies with low reps and such bullshit. Any study to shut his mouth?

Besides the fact of the validity of his study of course, since they trained in like 4-6 rep ranges for squats and showed no greater intermiofibrilar space afterwards. No shit lol


when i stated that hypertrophy is something we really know little about i was "proven wrong" by the "dude 12+ reps for hyp". I wonder how did the two types, especially sarcoplamic, even come to existence. There is indeed a striking lack of proper info.
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Any literature regarding the existence of sarcoplasmic hypertrophy boys?

I'm looking for information about this but google is failing me. A friend of mine maintains only miofibrilar hypertrophy exists, and has sent me some study where they tested a bunch of untrained ladies with low reps and such bullshit. Any study to shut his mouth?

Besides the fact of the validity of his study of course, since they trained in like 4-6 rep ranges for squats and showed no greater intermiofibrilar space afterwards. No shit lol


http://www.lookgreatnaked.com/articles/mechanisms_of_muscle_hypertrophy.pdf

You know about this, but yeah. Toward the beginning he has some sources and says there are differences in bodybuilders vs power lifters (obviously) lol.

Just ask your friend why the largest bodybuilders are always larger than elite power lifters. That in itself implies a difference in types of hypertrophy, as evident by different training styles.
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http://www.lookgreatnaked.com/articles/mechanisms_of_muscle_hypertrophy.pdf

You know about this, but yeah. Toward the beginning he has some sources and says there are differences in bodybuilders vs power lifters (obviously) lol.

Just ask your friend why the largest bodybuilders are always larger than elite power lifters. That in itself implies a difference in types of hypertrophy, as evident by different training styles.


Hmmm, not so sure about bolded. That could be simply because powerlifters only train the necessary hypertrophy to be as string as possible within their weight class. In fact, a PL wants to be as light as possible for a given strength, or as strong as possible for a given weight :/
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http://www.lookgreatnaked.com/articles/mechanismsofmusclehypertrophy.pdf

You know about this, but yeah. Toward the beginning he has some sources and says there are differences in bodybuilders vs power lifters (obviously) lol.

Just ask your friend why the largest bodybuilders are always larger than elite power lifters. That in itself implies a difference in types of hypertrophy, as evident by different training styles.


jimbo put it pretty nicely

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Hmmm, not so sure about bolded. That could be simply because powerlifters only train the necessary hypertrophy to be as string as possible within their weight class. In fact, a PL wants to be as light as possible for a given strength, or as strong as possible for a given weight :/


diet matters indeed. I still believe (but will submit to contrary evidence if it exists) that powerlifters and especially weightlifters have a lot of development on the neural frontier even at elite level, not to mention that bodybuilders exaggerate their arms and calves when training with weights, whereas two out of three lifts in PL dont even use arms much.

of this im not completely sure, but ive heard that if you have a higher bodyfat level then your muscles can exert greater forces with less risk of injury. The body indeed has mechanisms for detecting tension/torsion, so fat could provide cushioning of sorts. I would assume a mechanism where your neuromuscular functioning isnt hindered by signals from cells responsible for monitoring tension/torsion, allowing your muscles to use a greater output. I find this idea interesting, and could be related to the strength of chimps.

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Different types of hypertrophy exist. It's not a theory. If a bodybuilder gains size over time while not increasing his weightstack, he's gained sarcoplasmic size.
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Different types of hypertrophy exist. It's not a theory. If a bodybuilder gains size over time while not increasing his weightstack, he's gained sarcoplasmic size.


so is that the definition? a way of categorizing observations with no regard to what happens beneath the surface? like i said, i havent seen much evidence for the exact mechanisms. Most of the research implies myofibrillar hypertrophy is the only kind there is. Not only i have reached that conclusion; someone else is experessing concern too.
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