Quote (nonNo @ Mar 2 2017 10:31am)
Iso suggestion about them
Read ingredient label. Look for specific ingredients, and also look at how much of each ingredient the preworkout has.
Proprietary labels always mean the preworkout is bullshit. Any company with a proprietary label is just hiding the fact that they're cheaping out on the good stuff.
Ingredients that definitely 100% for sure work:
1. Caffeine.
2. Creatine. But this is a bullshit ingredient in a preworkout. You need creatine regularly (every day). You shouldn't use a preworkout daily.
3. Citrulline Malate. At 1g or less this is bullshit. I'm not sure what the proven amount is, but I go with 6g pre workout.
4. B vitamins. B6 and B12 especially. Careful with Niacin, non-flush is important otherwise you'll be burning.
5. Betaine. Not exciting, but useful.
6. Agmatine Sulfate (for a pump, citrulline helps alongside this)
7. Vitamin D. Very useful, not necessary if you get out in the sun lots... winter months especially it's great. Moving down the vitamin list, a multivitamin can be useful. But B vitamins help prior to a workout more immediately with energy.
Other than that stuff, there's stuff that I think works, but doesn't really have studies behind it:
1. N-Acetyl Tyrosine. Not L-Tyrosine. The difference is the N-Acetyl form is supposed to cross the blood brain barrier better. N-Acetyl Tyrosine gram-for-gram will raise Tyrosine levels in the blood less than regular Tyrosine will, but that's not the point. The question is, how does it interact in the brain. I don't know of any studies that confirm or refute anything. Anecdotally I think it's a promising supplement to increase dopamine production & alertness.
2. Acetyl L-Carnitine (ALCAR). This alongside N-Acetyl Tyrosine gets me moving. I do not think it's placebo. Again, no studies to support or refute, all anecdotal.
3. DMAE.
Shit that works but isn't good for you. Can be dangerous:
1. Synephrine. Gets your blood pumping.
2. 1,3 DMAA
3. Huperzine A
Stuff that might work but seems like it's bullshit:
1. Beta alanine. Gives you the tingles. Haven't seen a study that really backs this stuff up. I wouldn't discount it. If you like the tingles then that's fair enough reason I suppose.
I've missed ingredients for sure, but the long and short of it is... most preworkouts are going to have caffeine, and that's about it. They might throw a couple extra things in there, but in low quantities. Better to buy yourself some bulk citrulline malate, caffeine, some vitamins, and maybe one or two other things in bulk cheap.