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Feb 2 2017 06:16pm
Quote (Canadian_Man @ Feb 2 2017 07:49pm)
I've concluded my doctor isn't knowledgeable enough about ADHD to diagnose me, or treat me if I do have ADHD (ADD-inattentive).

My next step is to find a new doctor who is qualified and experienced in this area. I will hopefully receive a psych referral.


oh great you concluded that on your own, because youre more knowledgeable about adhd than your doctor and you know you fit the bill, so you must find someone who will prescribe you the pills you want.

you sound just like those fucking twats in the states who ask their doc for antibiotics every time they cough or sneeze, but they dont follow dosing instructions and just pop one every once in a while to be safe, and have now helped to breed super antibiotic resistant bacteria.
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Feb 2 2017 06:37pm
Quote (cloudkicker @ Feb 2 2017 05:16pm)
oh great you concluded that on your own, because youre more knowledgeable about adhd than your doctor and you know you fit the bill, so you must find someone who will prescribe you the pills you want.

you sound just like those fucking twats in the states who ask their doc for antibiotics every time they cough or sneeze, but they dont follow dosing instructions and just pop one every once in a while to be safe, and have now helped to breed super antibiotic resistant bacteria.


My doctor already prescribed me the pills I was looking for. I wasn't pill-seeking, I was seeking appropriate treatment. I discussed with my doctor that I felt medication was the appropriate treatment, and she gave me the prescriptions. The choice to prescribe was hers. I was extremely upfront, I didn't lie about anything, and I told her everything I thought.

I'm looking for a different doctor who can give me better help. My doctor is not knowledgeable about ADHD. Being given two different scripts and being given medical advice of "Up your dose to see what works for you, no need to call in to run it by me" just doesn't sound right to me. She obviously trusts that I will not make ridiculous choices, and believes that medication is personal and requires trial and error, but that process makes me uneasy. I want to see a doctor who has experience with ADHD patients, considering I haven't been diagnosed. Not experience in just medicating, but experience in correctly diagnosing.

Your comment is rude. You're speaking to a strawman, not me.

This post was edited by Canadian_Man on Feb 2 2017 06:41pm
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Feb 2 2017 10:57pm
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My doctor already prescribed me the pills I was looking for. I wasn't pill-seeking, I was seeking appropriate treatment. I discussed with my doctor that I felt medication was the appropriate treatment, and she gave me the prescriptions. The choice to prescribe was hers. I was extremely upfront, I didn't lie about anything, and I told her everything I thought.

I'm looking for a different doctor who can give me better help. My doctor is not knowledgeable about ADHD. Being given two different scripts and being given medical advice of "Up your dose to see what works for you, no need to call in to run it by me" just doesn't sound right to me. She obviously trusts that I will not make ridiculous choices, and believes that medication is personal and requires trial and error, but that process makes me uneasy. I want to see a doctor who has experience with ADHD patients, considering I haven't been diagnosed. Not experience in just medicating, but experience in correctly diagnosing.

Your comment is rude. You're speaking to a strawman, not me.


youve convinced yourself you have adhd and need treatment, but you want a second opinion for a diagnosis? who are you to determine how much knowledge your doctor has about adhd? im amazed you dont see the lunacy youre displaying right now
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Feb 3 2017 12:36am
Quote (cloudkicker @ Feb 2 2017 09:57pm)
youve convinced yourself you have adhd and need treatment, but you want a second opinion for a diagnosis? who are you to determine how much knowledge your doctor has about adhd? im amazed you dont see the lunacy youre displaying right now


Are you a complete troll?

You are telling me not to question my doctor. If that's true, then her diagnosis of ADHD means I have ADHD.

And since I also shouldn't question my doctor, then me taking the drugs that she prescribed me also is something I should do?

Some. Doctors. Don't. Know. How. To. Properly. Treat. And. Diagnose. ADHD. Period.
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Quote (Canadian_Man @ Feb 3 2017 02:36am)
Are you a complete troll?

You are telling me not to question my doctor. If that's true, then her diagnosis of ADHD means I have ADHD.

And since I also shouldn't question my doctor, then me taking the drugs that she prescribed me also is something I should do?

Some. Doctors. Don't. Know. How. To. Properly. Treat. And. Diagnose. ADHD. Period.



But what is your premise for this conclusion? What scientific or medical training do you have to come to justify your thought process other than its what you think? How could you possibly know this?
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But what is your premise for this conclusion? What scientific or medical training do you have to come to justify your thought process other than its what you think? How could you possibly know this?


I am not sure what you are asking me.

I thought about seeing my doctor all throughout university. I finally researched ADHD a few weeks ago. I spoke with a psychologist, he said that it's possible that I have ADD-inattentive and that I should see my doctor to discuss this with her. I went into the doctor, and I explained that I think I might have ADD-inattentive. She prescribed medication, with the diagnosis of ADD. I met with her for all of 3 minutes, and we didn't discuss symptoms or anything, but I received the diagnosis regardless. The medication didn't have any effects on me, from my stand-point and from family members seeing me. I went into the doctor again, I explained that the medication didn't seem to work. She pulled open Google, opened an ADD-test off the Google search, and asked me about 10 questions. I answered truthfully. She concluded "It's possible you have ADD, but I can't be sure." I asked her about a brain injury I had earlier in life, she said it's possible the brain injury is causing ADD-like symptoms, but again she said she couldn't be sure. She then prescribed me two other medications, and told me to trial them.

It was clear that my doctor was doing some preliminary testing to ensure that it's possible I have ADD. However, she even said "It's possible we're not treating ADD. I don't know."

Here is the conflicting information summarized:
- I've been prescribed 3 different medications so far
- I have a diagnosis of "ADD" on a sheet that I could show any medical doctor (ADHD technically being the correct medical diagnosis but "ADD" is an unofficial description of ADHD without hyperactivity)
- My doctor said it's possible I don't have ADD, but diagnosed me (technically)
- My doctor told me Biphentin is a totally different drug than Concerta, and that starting at 10mg is a procedure to ensure there's no allergic reactions, etc. However, Biphentin is a Methylphenidate drug. The only difference is in the release mechanisms (one releases once immediately and once a few hours later, the other releases part immediately and the rest spread evenly over 12 hours).
- My doctor gave me permission to take multiple prescription pills as I see fit, with no direction on maximum doses or how long I should stay on one dose before upping to another dose. She said I don't need to call in to run it by her.

While any one of those bits of information on its own might not be cause for concern, together it paints the picture that I should be seeking a second opinion from someone who is experienced with psychiatry (a psychiatrist).

You would be right to say I am not a medical doctor, and that I could be making incorrect assumptions about my doctor's decisions. But there's too many points I listed above to say I shouldn't be seeking advice from another qualified medical professional.

This post was edited by Canadian_Man on Feb 3 2017 06:28pm
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I am not sure what you are asking me.

I thought about seeing my doctor all throughout university. I finally researched ADHD a few weeks ago. I spoke with a psychologist, he said that it's possible that I have ADD-inattentive and that I should see my doctor to discuss this with her. I went into the doctor, and I explained that I think I might have ADD-inattentive. She prescribed medication, with the diagnosis of ADD. I met with her for all of 3 minutes, and we didn't discuss symptoms or anything, but I received the diagnosis regardless. The medication didn't have any effects on me, from my stand-point and from family members seeing me. I went into the doctor again, I explained that the medication didn't seem to work. She pulled open Google, opened an ADD-test off the Google search, and asked me about 10 questions. I answered truthfully. She concluded "It's possible you have ADD, but I can't be sure." I asked her about a brain injury I had earlier in life, she said it's possible the brain injury is causing ADD-like symptoms, but again she said she couldn't be sure. She then prescribed me two other medications, and told me to trial them.

It was clear that my doctor was doing some preliminary testing to ensure that it's possible I have ADD. However, she even said "It's possible we're not treating ADD. I don't know."

Here is the conflicting information summarized:
- I've been prescribed 3 different medications so far
- I have a diagnosis of "ADD" on a sheet that I could show any medical doctor (ADHD technically being the correct medical diagnosis but "ADD" is an unofficial description of ADHD without hyperactivity)
- My doctor said it's possible I don't have ADD, but diagnosed me (technically)
- My doctor told me Biphentin is a totally different drug than Concerta, and that starting at 10mg is a procedure to ensure there's no allergic reactions, etc. However, Biphentin is a Methylphenidate drug. The only difference is in the release mechanisms (one releases once immediately and once a few hours later, the other releases part immediately and the rest spread evenly over 12 hours).
- My doctor gave me permission to take multiple prescription pills as I see fit, with no direction on maximum doses or how long I should stay on one dose before upping to another dose. She said I don't need to call in to run it by her.

While any one of those bits of information on its own might not be cause for concern, together it paints the picture that I should be seeking a second opinion from someone who is experienced with psychiatry (a psychiatrist).

You would be right to say I am not a medical doctor, and that I could be making incorrect assumptions about my doctor's decisions. But there's too many points I listed above to say I shouldn't be seeking advice from another qualified medical professional.


There is no blood test or biomarker for add. The diagnosis is based on an appraisal of a set of symptoms and history the patient gives. A psychiatrist will maybe ask you more specific questions but will ultimately just tell you what your doctor told you, that it's possible you have a disorder. There literally is nothing else to do except to interview you and see how you respond to therapy. Clearly this medication hasn't had the effect on you that it has had on others, yet you seem dead set on getting "an add diagnosis" and "appropriate medication" from someone who knows better. I think youre just searching for something to blame your lack of attention all control on, or maybe you're having post concussion symptoms. Who fucking knows, there are no straight forward tests for the neurons in your brain
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Feb 17 2017 06:36am
TBH ADD/ADHD is overly diagnosed, and the newer first line drugs that you mentioned are going to be prescribed more because of commission. Also cloud is right there is no neurological test/biomarker for a diagnosis, only a psych eval.
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