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Nov 3 2016 08:49pm

Quote (tommyd323 @ Nov 3 2016 12:14pm)

For someone who cares so much about the environment. She sure doesn't mind asking people to throw away their votes. Pretty clever huh, you didn't know I was so clever.

I guess nobody watches snl

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oC4VXwFibWY

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Nov 3 2016 09:06pm

Here's unbiased:

http://taxfoundation.org/article/details-and-analysis-donald-trump-tax-reform-plan-september-2016

From a right leaning tax plan analyst ^^:

"According to the Tax Foundation’s Taxes and Growth Model, the plan would reduce federal revenue by between $4.4 trillion and $5.9 trillion on a static basis. The amount depends on the nature of a key business policy provision."

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2016/11/01/prominent-economists-including-eight-nobel-laureates-do-not-vote-for-donald-trump/
https://www.google.com/amp/www.cnbc.com/amp/2016/11/01/370-top-economists-publish-scathing-letter-against-dangerous-destructive-trump.html?client=safari

^370 economists against Trump's plans:

"The economists object to Mr. Trump for questioning the legitimacy of economic data produced by institutions such as the Bureau of Labor Statistics. They say he hasn’t proposed credible solutions to reduce budget deficits and that he has promoted misleading claims about trade and tax policy."

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Nov 3 2016 09:22pm

Quote (tommyd323 @ Nov 3 2016 11:06pm)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZcuWba_HgU

Here's unbiased:

http://taxfoundation.org/article/details-and-analysis-donald-trump-tax-reform-plan-september-2016

From a right leaning tax plan analyst ^^:

"According to the Tax Foundation’s Taxes and Growth Model, the plan would reduce federal revenue by between $4.4 trillion and $5.9 trillion on a static basis. The amount depends on the nature of a key business policy provision."

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2016/11/01/prominent-economists-including-eight-nobel-laureates-do-not-vote-for-donald-trump/
https://www.google.com/amp/www.cnbc.com/amp/2016/11/01/370-top-economists-publish-scathing-letter-against-dangerous-destructive-trump.html?client=safari

^370 economists against Trump's plans:

"The economists object to Mr. Trump for questioning the legitimacy of economic data produced by institutions such as the Bureau of Labor Statistics. They say he hasn’t proposed credible solutions to reduce budget deficits and that he has promoted misleading claims about trade and tax policy."

I think at this juncture, no one will ever fix this deficit unless they just absolve it somehow. And as for economic data, the unemployment rate is supposed to only includes people who are 'actively looking for work'. So the unemployment rate doesn't count all of those that are unemployed, just the unemployed that are now actively searching for employment. So yeah, in any case, it's fucked either way lol.

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Nov 3 2016 09:25pm

What does murica pay monthly in interest from the debt ?

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Nov 3 2016 09:28pm

Quote (Lil_Gueto @ Nov 3 2016 11:25pm)

What does murica pay monthly in interest from the debt ?

something along the lines of 1/4 of a trillion, i think

edit: oops, that annually, not monthly

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Nov 3 2016 09:41pm

^^ lets not dismiss the 370 economists and Trumps poor morals both. Lol
(8 novel laureates)

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Nov 3 2016 09:43pm

Quote (tommyd323 @ Nov 3 2016 11:41pm)

^^ lets not dismiss the majority of economists and Trumps poor morals both. Lol

not being dismissed - but that doesn't change what i said about the debt never being paid and unemployment haha...every single civilization in the past has erroded and collapsed at some point, every fiat currency failed eventually, and our current one, as it exists, will be no different..the question is just, when?

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Nov 3 2016 09:44pm

Quote (bnrhodes2 @ Nov 3 2016 10:43pm)

Have you made yourself a tin foil hat m9?

USA is not ending anytime soon. Lol

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Nov 3 2016 09:51pm

Quote (tommyd323 @ Nov 3 2016 11:44pm)

Have you made yourself a tin foil hat m9?

USA is not ending anytime soon. Lol

I didn't say at any point that it would be soon. I said that it will happen eventually, but no idea when.

Side note, don't fall in to the trap of what psychology termed as the Optimism Bias.

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Nov 4 2016 12:15am

Quote (bnrhodes2 @ Nov 3 2016 10:51pm)

I didn't say at any point that it would be soon. I said that it will happen eventually, but no idea when.

Side note, don't fall in to the trap of what psychology termed as the Optimism Bias.

Aye that sounds like an excuse to fear monger Fox News style

Sure there's the same chance for something to happen to you yet even though it's a minimal chance still (for most feared things), but there's no reason to overreact and vote for someone just because of fear

I.e. You're more likely to get struck by lightning than killed by a terrorist
Should we all walk around wearing rubber boots and rubber hats?

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