lots of time dude.
marathon man.

just lift properly, eat like a champ
proper form
blast one muscle group a day like its your last day alive

and you'll grow.
no rush.

>'it's a marathon not a sprint'
>'train like it's your last day alive'


I think those roids got to ur head m8

This post was edited by Excusemem8 on Oct 12 2016 02:41pm

Push/pull routines are something I've never liked.

I do each muscle group 2x a week. Each muscle group gets 1 dedicated day, and then 1 day where it gets hit again by association with another muscle group.

Chest day hits my triceps as well
Back day hits my biceps as well
Shoulder day is mostly just shoulder day but a bit of upper back
Arm day I hit back and chest as well
Leg day is leg day, lots of core

interesting

just do p90x

this is often how I do it. IT's sort of what you do mixed with a push/pull. I think it's always a good idea to work muscles at the same time that work against each other. Helps keep things balanced.

Also, no dedicated ab shit most of the time

4 days a week

monday
lower back/shoulders

tuesday
arms (tris&bis)/calves

wed
rest

thursday
quads/forearms/hamstrings

friday
upper back/chest

sat&sun - rest

And as time went on I progressively added more exercises or sets to my workouts to keep from plateauing

This post was edited by rlebar on Oct 12 2016 06:03pm

You have learned well young padawan.

This. I'm not experience lifter but I'd agree with this. Also to add to what Tear said. Fucking eat right or its all pointless. Can't be gaining without fueling yourself and getting what you need macros wise. All of this can be Google'd easily and there is tons of routines to fit all needs.

^^^ completely disagree with all of you


Take the example given of a back day also hitting arms, and the arm day also hitting back

Do you really think you need to have 'fresh' arms to work out your arms?

And if so, that'l leave your arms fatigued, giving you a shit back workout. Oh but you do back first then arms? Well that's a pull day. PPL is goat


My point is you can have a great arm workout AFTER you back work, but you can't do shit with you back after you've done 8 sets of curls

This post was edited by Excusemem8 on Oct 15 2016 08:53am