/rip thread

Lol.
I bet you think carbs make you fat too, huh?
So i guess that the Dr's shipped healthier people to places where the population only ate rice and veggies.
And they shipped people with diseases, mostly auto-immune, to places where the population eats meat.

Seriously, that article is shit....
She spent 45 days looking over the data? This study took place over years with over a hundred thousand people from all over the country..

Not going to debate this though, I'm living proof that animal proteins and oils cause inflammation.

@OP give it a shot, it's only 10 days. If it works for you, great!

This post was edited by herbdoc on Jul 26 2016 07:51am

No, that was quite the wrong assumption.

https://rawfoodsos.com/2010/07/07/the-china-study-fact-or-fallac/
https://rawfoodsos.com/the-china-study/

So I'm a liar when i say that my rheumatoid arthritis is literally non existing after being on dr. Mcdougall's diet plan for over a year? And so are the, let's see here, hundreds of other testimonials on his forum?

I couldn't care less about a correlating analysis of one's research compared to my own personal experience and hundreds of others.
I'm not on methotrexate or any other immunosuppressant drug, due to this way of eating and my health is phenomenal.

So you can continue to supply all the articles you want with 'analysis' in them.

The fact remains that my inflammation is nonexistent along with hundreds of other people.

@OP. Try it for 10 days, like i mentioned a couple times. If it doesn't work, no harm no foul - it's free!

This post was edited by herbdoc on Jul 26 2016 12:36pm

Correlation does not imply causation.

This post was edited by tommyd323 on Jul 26 2016 12:30pm

- except when it does? Like The China Study?

Due to having:
1. Temporal Data (literally years of studies and trials)
2. Strong evidence (blood work and detailed dietary data of an entire country)
3. Very consistent (all results are the same)

The page you linked has none of this....

Like i said,
The fact remains that my inflammation is nonexistent, and I have an aggressive auto-immune disease, along with hundreds of other people.

@OP. Try it for 10 days, like i mentioned a couple times. If it doesn't work, no harm no foul - it's free!

This post was edited by herbdoc on Jul 26 2016 12:56pm

I heard tin foil hats help with inflammation as well op.

this is a well-written piece, and it's very good that The China Study is being challenged on details it may have fallen short on. it's the only way to move forward. there is a lot of research, data, and analysis done in the study. it'd be scientifically unheard of for it all to be 100% on-point, being as first-edition-esque as it is (but being as we're all scientists here, you'd know that, right?).

anybody who claims The China Study is some sort of vegan gospel, or the end-all, be-all for universal nutrition is goddamn insane. on the other hand, anybody who will disregard the study for the points and counter-arguments brought up against it has no understanding of how the progressive nature of science, or science itself works.

unfortunately, google be damned, the points brought up here hardly invalidate the study. it merely suggests there is room for improvisation, and that is a very good thing.

The China Study has laid credible groundwork for lots of issues that need more analysis. or, as it says in the last paragraph of the page you linked: "The issues raised are important and deserve further study by unbiased scientists."



you do not make a strong argument by regurgitating a phrase that is entirely out of context, or by posting a link to the 2nd result on google when searching for "problems with the china study"

basically, you're a chump. pls go, tommyd323.

This post was edited by Wretch on Jul 26 2016 02:00pm

It was completely in context having to do with lol "herbdoc's" control of his inflammation.

http://forums.lylemcdonald.com/showthread.php?t=5816 -why don't you go argue with someone much smarter than the both of us, chump.

no amount of copy/pasting links from google or repeating what i said weakens my argument or makes yours looks stronger.

stick to shitposting. you're really great at it.