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Jan 27 2016 11:54pm
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Jan 28 2016 12:07am
Quote (rlebar @ Jan 27 2016 04:30pm)
I find it surprising how many people say $250 is a small amount to lose in one sitting. What are you playing? lol and how much money do you make? $250 is a days wage or more for a lot of people. That's not a small amount of money in my mind

I've lost 200-250 several times. I actually keep track of my wins and losses ever since I started going to the casino with my buddy. In my whole life, I've lost $1395 (adding up all the losses and subtracting all the winnings) all time in the 3 years I've been going.

I mostly play blackjack, and go with a certain amount, and don't pull more to try to win back what was lost. That's where you get in to trouble. I do it for entertainment and that is all. When I go, I go with the expectation of losing the money, even if the goal is to win money and be entertained in the process

Never gamble with money you can't afford to lose, ever.

I can fully understand how people get addicted to gambling. It's exciting. The high and lows emotionally when you win big and lose big is enticing. It's easy for thrill seeker type people to get addicted imo.

Over all, the amount of money I've lost at the casino is well worth the ridiculous amount of hours I've been entertained, fun times, interesting conversations with random people, free drinks etc etc. I've even gone to the casino with buddies and not gambled, even though I went with the intent to gamble. It can be just fun/interesting observing people. I've seen people go on winning streaks I could only dream of. It's crazy. I've had a couple decent winning streaks, but my losing streaks have been pretty absurd a time or 2

Gambling is funnest when you're on vacation in a new place. The caribbean is a great place to gamble for fun in my experience.


I've never lost more than $200 in a day at the casino, but $250 isn't enough to go nuts about. It sucks to lose any money, yes, but you shouldn't be going broke over it - if you are, then you should never step foot in a casino anyway. I've lost $200 in roulette once, and lost $200 in blackjack once. (As for income, ~$120/hr).

In total, I'm up like $2k + comps. I got lucky - the first time I got a player rewards card at a casino near me, I forgot the card in a slot machine (got $10 of free slot play for signing up). People must have kept playing while my card was in the machine. The next time I went back, I asked for a new card and they said I had been upgraded in membership. Apparently $42k went through the slot machine while my card was in it. After that, I was sent coupons for free slot play, good blackjack coupons (a free hand each week - if you win, you get $75), and 2 free nights at the resort each month. (I live within 30 minutes of 3 casinos in Arizona, the closest is less than a 10 minute drive).

You nailed it though - expect to lose everything you walk in to a casino with. Even with knowing to count cards and having a slight advantage, you still can go on a streak and lose. I'm glad I've only had that happen once though lol.



Quote (BeastOf_TheEast @ Jan 28 2016 12:32am)
i lost 1200$ lol and thats being a part time worker and a college student. you'll get over it. 250$ in the grand scheme of thing is nothing. i put 200$ on black in roulette lol (and lost). i enjoy gambling here and there but like mentioned before, only gamble what your comfortable losing. take it as a lesson that maybe you aren't cut out for gambling if you dont wanna lose money. with the exception of texas hold em, the odds are ALWAYS against you in any table game/slot machine no matter what strategy you have. theres no getting rid of a house edge, only reducing it by not making obviously stupid bets. i enjoy the thrill part of it having a 100-200$ on the table at once and knowing the roll of the dice or where the ball lands can produce a big win or have it all wiped away in one shot. the idea is to make your money last the night and spread the fun out. not lose 600$ like i did in 25 minutes lol


with blackjack, counting does work to put the edge in your favor..but, in perfect circumstances, you still will only tend to see 2%-3% in your favor, which is only beneficial with huge sums of money, or long stretches of time
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Jan 28 2016 12:36am
Lost a quite a bit of money in poker once with quad 8s. A girl who was playing under the gun had quad jacks. Talk about next to impossible.

For anybody that doesn't understand, probability of one person pulling quads is 0.00168 %. The probability of a second person pulling out quads after the first person is 0.031%. For two quads to drop, it's somewhere near 0.00005208 %.

Shat myself promptly.

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Jan 28 2016 02:34pm
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I've never lost more than $200 in a day at the casino, but $250 isn't enough to go nuts about. It sucks to lose any money, yes, but you shouldn't be going broke over it - if you are, then you should never step foot in a casino anyway. I've lost $200 in roulette once, and lost $200 in blackjack once. (As for income, ~$120/hr).

In total, I'm up like $2k + comps. I got lucky - the first time I got a player rewards card at a casino near me, I forgot the card in a slot machine (got $10 of free slot play for signing up). People must have kept playing while my card was in the machine. The next time I went back, I asked for a new card and they said I had been upgraded in membership. Apparently $42k went through the slot machine while my card was in it. After that, I was sent coupons for free slot play, good blackjack coupons (a free hand each week - if you win, you get $75), and 2 free nights at the resort each month. (I live within 30 minutes of 3 casinos in Arizona, the closest is less than a 10 minute drive).

You nailed it though - expect to lose everything you walk in to a casino with. Even with knowing to count cards and having a slight advantage, you still can go on a streak and lose. I'm glad I've only had that happen once though lol.


yeah man

Quote (dgkblack @ 28 Jan 2016 01:36)
Lost a quite a bit of money in poker once with quad 8s. A girl who was playing under the gun had quad jacks. Talk about next to impossible.

For anybody that doesn't understand, probability of one person pulling quads is 0.00168 %. The probability of a second person pulling out quads after the first person is 0.031%. For two quads to drop, it's somewhere near 0.00005208 %.

Shat myself promptly.


lol just got fisted right in the poop shoot. That sucks man

I was playing mississippi stud (terrible game to play I don't recommend it, it's usually a fast bleed) with my buddy and he hit quad jacks with $40 on the table (he didn't get pockets. $5 ante with another $5 to see the first card, and he hit the second jack so he loaded it up) with 40:1 odds. Clean $1600 and we both played for another while and both made even more money, which is rare with Mississippi stud. Like 5 minutes after my buddy hit quads another guy at the table hit quad aces within 5 hands of sitting down at the table (again $5 ante but with pockets he was able to load it up right away). $2000 win for that guy. He plyed for like 5-10 more minutes and left with his cash lol. Dealer was like "the hell, I've never dealt quads before, let alone twice so close together."

I swear real life gambling is more RNG than an RNG based video game. It's ridiculous. Sometimes the odds mean nothing. The first time I played mississippi stud I lost 26 straight hands with zero chance of winning anything if I played every single hnd through. I was pissed. I've lost 15+ straight hands in blackjack probably 5+ times too. It can be so frustrating. Walk in to the casino with $200 and within 5 minutes you're down to like $20 playing $10 hands wondering wtf is happening. It's happened so many times it's crazy. It usually turns around and you're back to even after a while though. One thing I've learned with blackjack is you need a good buffer to start with to accomodate a big losing streak right when you sit down. It's happened to me too many times to count. Blackjack is a game of swings. Just have to know when you need to leave. I've never won 15+ straight hands ever though. My losing streaks have been pretty legendary. haha

This post was edited by rlebar on Jan 28 2016 02:39pm
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Jan 28 2016 02:38pm
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yeah man



lol just got fisted right in the poop shoot. That sucks man

I was playing mississippi stud (terrible game to play I don't recommend it, it's usually a fast bleed) with my buddy and he hit quad jacks with $40 on the table with 40:1 odds. Like 5 minutes later another guy at the table hit quad aces. Dealer was like "the hell, I've never dealt quads before, let alone twice so close together."

I swear real life gambling is more RNG than an RNG based game. It's ridiculous. Sometimes the odds mean nothing. I've lost 15+ straight hands in blackjack probably 5+ times. It can be so frustrating. Walk in to the casino with $200 and within 5 minutes you're down to like $20 playing $10 hands wondering wtf is happening. It's happened so many times it's crazy. It usually turns around and you're back to even after a while though. One thing I've learned with blackjack is you need a good buffer to start to accomodate a big losing streak right when you sit down. It's happened to me too many times to count. Blackjack is a game of swings. Just have to know when you need to leave. I've never won 15+ straight hands ever though. My losing streaks have been pretty legendary.



the thing about casinos is they make money, therefore their customers must loose more often than they win. and if some1 does win, it better be smaller amount than the total they have already gained from the loosers

so yea loosing is to be expected as u said.

and casinos dont just make some money, they are often filthy rich

This post was edited by noob_whacker on Jan 28 2016 02:38pm
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Jan 28 2016 02:41pm
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the thing about casinos is they make money, therefore their customers must loose more often than they win. and if some1 does win, it better be smaller amount than the total they have already gained from the loosers

so yea loosing is to be expected as u said.

and casinos dont just make some money, they are often filthy rich


I edited my post but yeah man, they are.

The odds with blackjack are really close to 50/50 depending on how many card deck you're playing with which is why I play it, but it's also just fun to chill, and chat with the dealers and other players sometimes. You meet some pretty interesting people
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Jan 28 2016 03:33pm
Quote (rlebar @ Jan 28 2016 04:41pm)
I edited my post but yeah man, they are.

The odds with blackjack are really close to 50/50 depending on how many card deck you're playing with which is why I play it, but it's also just fun to chill, and chat with the dealers and other players sometimes. You meet some pretty interesting people


free drinks

and 2nd hand smoke

nom nom


i hate the 2nd hand smoke part though, so fuked

only thing missing is topless women serving the drinks

then u get, gambling, tobacco, alcohol, topless women.
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Jan 28 2016 03:44pm
you couldn't be feeling badly because of the loss of $250, i'd guess it was due to the fact you lost any amount needlessly?

head to the table with cash in hand you've allotted to that purpose specifically, and just like loaning money to a friend, you have to be okay with the idea of never getting it back.

this seemed like good advice, maybe it'll work for you, for me i still thought about all the things the lost cash could've been used for instead :P
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Jan 28 2016 10:58pm
All this advice here was great, and I appreciate all of it. I guess it just blew my mind how I wasted the money... I didn't find it fun at all, all i found it was constantly nerve wracking, until I ended up loosing it all.

Never ever gambling again, I just don't see the fun in it... I would rather spend $250 on diablo 2 items bought online than going to the casino. For those wondering, I was playing roulette, and black jack.

I started with 50, went up to 90, lost it all and thought "hell, if i double my last bet I have to at least make it back right?" ... WRONG

I did that retarded idea three times until poof, 250 vanished like the wind.

Lesson learned, its just not for me... and I'm retarded when it comes to gambling :P
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Jan 29 2016 01:12am
that's honestly how I felt the first time I went to the casino and even many times after when I'm on a losing streak. I still end up going back like a degenerate. Believe it or not, it's all part of the experience.
I find it interesting to see even my own behaviour when I'm getting fucked hard by the odds. It's really hard to keep a totally level head in there.

It is nerve wracking, but there is a sort of thrill to that too. Believe me, when you go on a winning streak, that feeling is gone like the wind. Sounds like you had a losing streak.
It's all part of the experience, and you got sucked in to it. Happens to all of us with something in life. Sometimes it's $250 in a casino, sometimes it's a woman, sometimes it's a car... you get the point.

This post was edited by rlebar on Jan 29 2016 01:13am
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