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#21
Feb 14 2015 09:51am
Quote (boxboxbox @ Feb 14 2015 09:31am)
I agree, however, aggression / social dominance can seem like charisma. and test can influence that.


Most of those claims are bullshit
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#22
Feb 14 2015 10:02am
Quote (2813308004 @ Feb 13 2015 11:40pm)
no, I don't know how steroids work.

it's not an issue of "safety". it's an issue of physiological sovereignty. reliance on externals isn't acceptable to me.



the body is an intelligence. teach it and it will learn. it just forgot how to work


yeah i know a lot of doctors who take the same approach when dealing with renal failure
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#23
Feb 14 2015 11:45am
Dehydroepiandrosterone
Vitamin D
Zinc
Fenugreek

Taking those would probably restore your t levels
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#24
Feb 14 2015 12:46pm
Quote (Lightman @ Feb 14 2015 11:51am)
Most of those claims are bullshit


he only stated two claims....

ummm most of those two claims r what?

ummm

learn to reed

yee my epic spelling
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#25
Feb 14 2015 01:01pm
Quote (2813308004 @ Feb 13 2015 11:25pm)
I had a blood test done and out of curiosity I asked for free T. 203.5 ng/ml to my disappointment.

Any ideas on what to look into for treatment? There is a way to kick the endocrine system in the ass and wake it up, just need to figure out how. Not interested in anything that requires me to take it for the rest of my life, though I understand this may take time to fix.


I'd appreciate serious replies


That value doesn't make sense... even the units are wrong...

Free test is normally 1/10th of that (normal value ~ 20) and measured in ng/dL ...

...if anything, that is the total test and the units are still wrong

if you meant pg/ml then it is normal anyway...

also, ifsomething was majorly wrong and you had symptoms of anything you could easily address them with a doctor and be given compensatory medication for your problem.
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#26
Feb 14 2015 01:25pm
Quote (YoloSwag420 @ Feb 14 2015 07:01pm)
That value doesn't make sense... even the units are wrong...

Free test is normally 1/10th of that (normal value ~ 20) and measured in ng/dL ...

...if anything, that is the total test and the units are still wrong

if you meant pg/ml then it is normal anyway...

also, ifsomething was majorly wrong and you had symptoms of anything you could easily address them with a doctor and be given compensatory medication for your problem.


He meant ng/dl, and it wasn't for his free test level. He has low test and is searching for options before having a needle stuck in his ass if you read the thread.
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#27
Feb 14 2015 01:57pm
Quote (ug_warrior(xtc) @ Feb 14 2015 03:25pm)
He meant ng/dl, and it wasn't for his free test level. He has low test and is searching for options before having a needle stuck in his ass if you read the thread.


He could spend a lot on twigs and berries that really aren't going to help him the way he is hoping, or he could just get on trt (more than likely covered by insurance) and live a happy and normal life, just with test @7-800+ng/dl instead.
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Feb 14 2015 02:17pm
Quote (BodyBuild @ Feb 14 2015 07:57pm)
He could spend a lot on twigs and berries that really aren't going to help him the way he is hoping, or he could just get on trt (more than likely covered by insurance) and live a happy and normal life, just with test @7-800+ng/dl instead.


Yeah and I already said that but it's not what he wants to do. Imo it's gucci
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#29
Feb 14 2015 02:24pm
Quote (noob_whacker @ Feb 14 2015 08:46pm)
he only stated two claims....

ummm most of those two claims r what?

ummm

learn to reed

yee my epic spelling


The claims on test affecting mood, dipshit
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#30
Feb 14 2015 05:02pm
Quote (Lightman @ Feb 14 2015 04:24pm)
The claims on test affecting mood, dipshit


It actually does affect mood

/e but a difference from his levels, to somewhere in the normal ranges, unless at the far higher end, probably wouldn't be noticeable.

This post was edited by BodyBuild on Feb 14 2015 05:03pm
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