I'm on vacation eating like a pig and still definitely lost weight. Cause all dat hiking and walking I been doing.

Check your caloric expenditure brah. Also that food doesn't seem like a lot of calories lol.

This post was edited by PartyInMyPants on Dec 16 2014 06:31pm

Heh.

Rest in peace in peace.

First off stop using a scale and use your mirror/log book to assess where your body composition stands; scale variance can be related to any number of subtle changes from day to day such as hydration, glycogen depletion, as well as any sort of undigested food, etc.. Stop being neurotic about counting calories and just eat quality food. Assuming these foods listed reflect a pretty typical day your off to a good start qualitatively you just need to stop trying to quantify your calories expended/consumed, it's a lost cause.

It's hard to judge looking in a mirror, and tbh past week my pecs have been looking quite small, the weight i started my bulk in november was 160 so ive gained bf% and lost weight which is psychologically depressing AF it's tough to just yolo my foods cuz then i usually undereat :S

it's depressing AF because you are not trying hard enough to eat the sufficient amount. Honestly just read the caloric info on everything you buy and make 100% sure you eat at least 3500 calories a day. Good luck

I honestly thought I was, i measure my oats/rice in a pyrex meausring cup every day, and 3,300 seems like an abundance of calories I just don't know anymore....

There's no way OP's diet is even 2500 cals.

That's a good start, using a liquid measuring cup to measure your dry ingredients... I've got serious issues with the whole calorie counting trend and all of these damn calorie calculating apps; first and foremost because the majority of their data is self reported by users and added to the database or taken haphazardly from nutrition labels with little regard to serving size standardization. Just because you accurately measure (which you likely aren't), does not mean the caloric value they have associated with that serving is correct. An alternative I would suggest despite it's lack of accessibility in a nice convenient app would be the USDA Handbook, at least those reference values are established using calorimetry and a standardized analysis. ( http://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ ) Also you are missing a huge piece to the puzzle if you are following a calories in/calories out approach which doesn't account for "endogenous fuels" (glycolysis, lipolysis, etc.), the thermic effect of food, or how much you are simply shitting out.

3,300 calories from lean foods is very tough. I got some carb powder to add to my protein shakes to help get more calories and have proper macros. I also drank a lot of whole milk. You can't really bulk on just lean meats and soy milk.

lactose intolerant i ran out of maltodextron, that was an easy 200 calories, i'll prolly get more, or get waxy maize.



so what's your suggestion then??