depends, untrained will typically experience a bilateral facilitation effect and trained will experience a bilateral deficit, in other words untrained will typically be able to generate more force on one side than half of both sides at the same time, and vice versa for trained

why seated db ohp? can u do the same with standing ohp?

That's really good endurance vs max. I was at 7-8 reps at 225 at age 16 sophomore HS with a 300 max. Same height as you at that time also and ~ 184 lbs.




I would say eight reps. Five means that the endurance needs to be improved.



Seated military press restricts any other type of muscle group "assisting" with your lifts (OHP).

The thing is, when standing, it suddenly becomes a "jerk" press. We don't want that because you'll be using other muscle groups that will not isolate and strengthen your shoulders optimally. So your results will be decimated greatly.

The objective is to enhance RAW strength and power in the shoulders and tricep area. Think: strong push power.

This increased my bench press so much. I remember when I maxed 460, I was pressing 225 lbs for 5-6 reps on the barbell seated. It was difficult and dangerous too (the welding was really lose on this barbell holder).

Ultimately, I kept working at seated OHP and increased it even more so with DB raises and strengthening rotator cuffs also.

Simultaneously, you should also work on DB OHP as this trains again, whole different muscle groups.

At the end: (age 19, 5'11" 183 lbs)

DB OHP: 120 lbs each hand for 7-8 reps
BB OHP: 315 lbs BB 6 reps, 365 lbs for 4 reps, and just for fun - on the smith machine; 405 lbs for 3 reps
Best bench: 505 lbs for 2 reps, 535 lbs for 1 rep max.

*This increased my reps and max bench by over 80 lbs...while weighing less. This is the significance of working other muscle groups.

After a straight cut from 201 lbs, same body fat, same power. Those were the good days until I decided to waste away to 170 and lower for MMA training. Lol.

Now currently 6' 171-174 and focusing cardio, some MMA training still. I don't lift heavy anymore, but I'm glad to pass on my tools of the trade to the other young ones. (Enjoy the young strong age now, because when you get older, it's difficult to come back from injuries/get EXTREME results like I once did -- Naturally, too).

This post was edited by Welterweight on Nov 4 2014 06:32pm

Not sure theres an equivalent that everyone can go by..
i can do the hundreds on dbs for 12 but only 275 x 1 on barbell...
granted i rarely go heavy but still

TL dr

I gave a range for a reason. 100-120 for 5-8 does not translate strictly to 100 for 5. Not everyone has endurance. Just because you can move heavy weight for a few reps doesn't mean you have the endurance to do moderate weight for high reps.

Then you have form to worry about. Sure. Anyone can do 10 reps with 130 lb dumb bells if they want to short change rom.

Didn't think I'd need to go all captain obvious and elaborate.

You gave a rep range of 5-8 cos you're unsure and have no idea lol.

If you don't believe 5 reps at 100 lbs = 3 reps at 315 then why did you include those figures in your range

Edit: unless you still do, then lol just lol

This post was edited by HotHamAndCarl on Nov 4 2014 07:29pm

idk..

I can bench like 305 max and do incline db press @ 110lbs for 4-5 reps.


idk what you make of that.

This post was edited by MGS4BestGameEverMade on Nov 4 2014 07:29pm

Someone didn't teach you how to properly comprehend informational text in school. You don't get to pick and choose one minute detail and generalize.

Lol son why would you include a rep range of 5-8 if 5 wasnt accurate?

I think someone didn't teach you informational texts in junior school.

Brb selling 315 apples for $5-$8

brb Ok I'll buy 315 for 5

Brb Oh you can't pick 5 because u can't pick minute details