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#21
Oct 8 2014 11:21pm
Hmm. I wonder if its possibly meant to be done in cycles?
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#22
Oct 8 2014 11:22pm
Quote (Balla @ Oct 9 2014 12:20am)
The former.


What?
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#23
Oct 8 2014 11:28pm
Quote (jimtheflow @ Oct 8 2014 11:22pm)
What?


Just curious. How old are you.
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#24
Oct 9 2014 05:17am
Quote (jimtheflow @ Oct 9 2014 01:19am)
When you say a "tolerance," do you mean I won't physically feel the same effects? Or is it one of those mental games that some drugs trick your brain into thinking you have a tolerance? Because if its a mental tolerance, that I can overcome. But if my body physically requires more and more to feel the same effects as I do now at 500mg, you're right I might have to stop using phenibut.


Drug tolerance is a direct product of decreased sensitivity to the compound by reducing membrane receptor expression and or translocation, and also sometimes by inducing inhibitory metabolic enzymes.
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#25
Oct 9 2014 06:49am
Quote (JJRK @ Oct 9 2014 12:28am)
Just curious. How old are you.


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#26
Oct 9 2014 11:41am
Quote (Balla @ 8 Oct 2014 22:04)
Lol.

Interesting tid-bit about phenibut though.. and baclofen and other GABA-B agonists: if administered with opioids, they prevent the dopamine surge and thus addiction. For instance phenibut or baclofen + heroin = no addiction.


To add onto this. Taking prozac up to 6 hours after taking Molly/X will plug your seratonin receptors and prevent neuro toxic damage from the excess molly and dopamine that would normally plug them up. This also lessens the come down feeling you would normally have to endure.

[edit] there's always a safe way to take drugs

This post was edited by MyAddiction on Oct 9 2014 11:41am
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#27
Oct 9 2014 02:51pm
Quote (MyAddiction @ Oct 9 2014 01:41pm)
To add onto this. Taking prozac up to 6 hours after taking Molly/X will plug your seratonin receptors and prevent neuro toxic damage from the excess molly and dopamine that would normally plug them up. This also lessens the come down feeling you would normally have to endure.

[edit] there's always a safe way to take drugs


Yup
MDMA causes a reverse efflux of serotonin through SERT and SSRIs stabilize SERT, attenuating the ability of it to do that.
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#28
Oct 9 2014 02:53pm
Quote (Balla @ Oct 8 2014 09:04pm)
Lol.

Interesting tid-bit about phenibut though.. and baclofen and other GABA-B agonists: if administered with opioids, they prevent the dopamine surge and thus addiction. For instance phenibut or baclofen + heroin = no addiction.


can you inject phenibut/baclofen? because im thinking that if you inject heroin its going to affect the dopamine before the other drugs start doing their effects.
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Oct 9 2014 02:56pm
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can you inject phenibut/baclofen? because im thinking that if you inject heroin its going to affect the dopamine before the other drugs start doing their effects.


take it in advance
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#30
Oct 9 2014 02:57pm
Quote (prednam @ Oct 9 2014 03:56pm)
take it in advance


sounds like a plan lol
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