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Sep 25 2014 02:42pm
Quote (BodyBuild @ Sep 25 2014 03:32pm)
okay well idk how many carbs are in the fruit/pasta alone, but seems pretty low to sustain for awhile.  if i were you, just to see where it landed me, i'd do a moderate refeed, then up my cals to 2100 for a week or so, and see if you start putting on weight or not.. then just up the cals until you start putting on weight.

granted, you will put on weight in the beginning from water and glycogen i'm sure, since your body has been accustom to such a small cal intake, but that will taper off and you will find a more accurate maintenance.

all imo, i'm sure i will get flamed by someone


This is the internet. Of course you're going to get flamed.

But seriously, thanks for the input. I really appreciate it. I'll give it a shot. My main concern when I posted this was that I would be increasing my calories too fast and my body would react negatively. But I guess the only way for me to really test that....is to do it. As for the carbs go, I think I was eating under 50g per day, I think the pineapple is about 18 grams of net carbs per serving and the pasta is 34g of net carbs. So around 52g of net carbs. Then whatever 1/4 cup of almonds has. Maybe I have been eating about 55g of net carbs per day. Give or a take a few.
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Sep 25 2014 03:16pm
you only need 140 grams of protein, the rest of your calories should come from carbs and fats.
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Sep 25 2014 03:21pm
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you only need 140 grams of protein, the rest of your calories should come from carbs and fats.


I always thought the rule was 1.5g of protein per pound of lean body mass? Wouldn't that put me around needing 220ish?
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Sep 25 2014 04:15pm
don't go below 180-200

if you were eating that low of carbs, you should definitely do a refeed. would go for like 300-400, will probably get a nice bloat going after / muscles be real full but just go back to a more 'normal' intake and slowly increase it like you said.

seems like you are already pretty strict on your diet, so increasing slowly shouldnt be a problem. i'd stick with 100-200 a week, see where it lands you.
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Sep 25 2014 05:34pm
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I always thought the rule was 1.5g of protein per pound of lean body mass? Wouldn't that put me around needing 220ish?


bro science, total waste of calories, esp if you are trying to gain
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Sep 25 2014 06:00pm
Quote (ChrTal @ Sep 25 2014 07:34pm)
bro science, total waste of calories, esp if you are trying to gain


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21239090 - Muscle&Cognitive Functions

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18379214 - Maintains Nitrogen balance during exercised-induced energy deficit

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16046715 - Body Composition in a deficit

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19927027 - High Pro reduces LBM loss during weight loss

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Quote (BodyBuild @ Sep 26 2014 02:00am)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21239090 - Muscle&Cognitive Functions

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18379214 - Maintains Nitrogen balance during exercised-induced energy deficit

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16046715 - Body Composition in a deficit

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19927027 - High Pro reduces LBM loss during weight loss


yea, increased protein != increased synthesis since free T cells aren't naturally rising, but declining. nice pubmed try though
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Sep 25 2014 08:04pm
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Sep 26 2014 09:34am
Quote (BodyBuild @ Sep 25 2014 05:15pm)
don't go below 180-200

if you were eating that low of carbs, you should definitely do a refeed.  would go for like 300-400, will probably get a nice bloat going after / muscles be real full but just go back to a more 'normal' intake and slowly increase it like you said.

seems like you are already pretty strict on your diet, so increasing slowly shouldnt be a problem. i'd stick with 100-200 a week, see where it lands you.


I've been seeing a lot of people talking about "Refeeding". But is that really needed if I have a cheat meal every weekend? Wouldn't that be considered my refreeding process? OR, am I not fully understand how much food / how many "extra" calories I need to eat in order for it to be considered a "refeed"?
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Sep 26 2014 02:58pm
well it depends on your cheat meal.. if you are eating low carb (like <100g) for 5 days, then just having like a cheeseburger and milkshake on saturday, and thats it, then no, i'd say you should get more carbs in. I would start refeeding saturday, eat a moderate amount of carbs, and taper back a bit on sunday, then get back to where you were on monday.

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