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Aug 31 2014 06:17pm
Quote (RewtheBrave @ Aug 31 2014 07:11pm)
I will approach answers although as the questions seem directed to Balla, he can speak for himself if he wants.



Well, volume is the name of the game in hypertrophy. How much? I don't know. Substantial? It depends on the program in place but in general, it's probably going to be substantial. As Arnold says, hypertrophy is about thousands and thousands of reps and how they add up over time to create a complete physique.



In hypertrophy you usually count the main. If you're doing chest/tri/shoulders together ... start with shoulders or chest (bigger groups), and count the incline movement as you wish. If you're splitting the days differently as a lot of folks would do, then you definitely want to count incline db press as chest alone imho.


I feel like more people are just doing push days compared to a shoulder or chest day like 5 years ago. Maybe just this forum.

But I'd probably count incline press for just chest then

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Aug 31 2014 06:37pm
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30 sets for 6 days of the week = 180 sets.

I could see people getting 200

And exactly how much does all that extra volume help in terms of micro tears and eventually leading to more hypertrophy. Say you do half the sets, how much less muscle growth are you really going to get? Is it that substantial?


pretty sure he meant 15 a day but 30 a week cuz ppl x 2
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Aug 31 2014 06:40pm
Quote (Deathslaya16 @ Aug 31 2014 07:37pm)
pretty sure he meant 15 a day but 30 a week cuz ppl x 2


He acted like it was high volume, that'd be average.
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Aug 31 2014 10:59pm
Quote (TheMagicFlightBox @ Aug 31 2014 04:21pm)
The fact that you took the time to write all that is impressive.


It legitimately took no more than 10 minutes lol. Not hard to outline a quick post when the knowledge is already engrained in your mind

Quote (tommyd323 @ Aug 31 2014 07:25pm)
30 sets for 6 days of the week = 180 sets.

I could see people getting 200

And exactly how much does all that extra volume help in terms of micro tears and eventually leading to more hypertrophy. Say you do half the sets, how much less muscle growth are you really going to get? Is it that substantial?


Quote (Deathslaya16 @ Aug 31 2014 08:37pm)
pretty sure he meant 15 a day but 30 a week cuz ppl x 2


This. But that's just for each body part. You're hitting multiple things each day. I think lightman saying 200 sets/week is on the upper threshold of volume
Let's just stick to the 30 as I said (though I'd go above it over a prolonged volume progression): 30 for chest, 30 for back, 30 for legs, 10 for traps, 20 for bis, 20 for tris, 10 for calves, 10 for abs, 10-20 for shoulders. That's 170-180.

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^^ and how do you go about exercises like incline db press, you could say it hits chest, shoulders, and triceps. Would that be 1 sets for each or just the main muscle it targets (pectoral)?


Well on a push day (chest/shoulders/tris) I'd allott the incline db bench toward chest ofc. However, if you're having an incline heavy day, reduce volume on your direct shoulder presses following.

For instance, a new ppl I'm about to begin soon has a ton of incline movements on one of the push days.. maybe 1 flat movement. Thus, I'm ditching the direct shoulder presses that particular day and hit some lateral raises.
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Sep 1 2014 01:20am
Damn this is gonna take a while to read.
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https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=285193905020430&id=175556779317477

Compiled my previous post here into a better and more detailed post. So if you're interested in what I talked about earlier/hypertrophy routines, check it out lol (sorry for shameless advertising lol)
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Sep 1 2014 11:22am
Quote (Balla @ Aug 31 2014 08:59pm)
It legitimately took no more than 10 minutes lol. Not hard to outline a quick post when the knowledge is already engrained in your mind





This. But that's just for each body part. You're hitting multiple things each day. I think lightman saying 200 sets/week is on the upper threshold of volume
Let's just stick to the 30 as I said (though I'd go above it over a prolonged volume progression): 30 for chest, 30 for back, 30 for legs, 10 for traps, 20 for bis, 20 for tris, 10 for calves, 10 for abs, 10-20 for shoulders. That's 170-180.



Well on a push day (chest/shoulders/tris) I'd allott the incline db bench toward chest ofc. However, if you're having an incline heavy day, reduce volume on your direct shoulder presses following.

For instance, a new ppl I'm about to begin soon has a ton of incline movements on one of the push days.. maybe 1 flat movement. Thus, I'm ditching the direct shoulder presses that particular day and hit some lateral raises.


That's what I did when I did my PPL a while ago
Had a ton of incline movements + lateral raises on one press day and then flat movements + shoulder press on the other press day
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Quote (Balla @ Sep 1 2014 11:50am)
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=285193905020430&id=175556779317477

Compiled my previous post here into a better and more detailed post. So if you're interested in what I talked about earlier/hypertrophy routines, check it out lol (sorry for shameless advertising lol)



"However, apart from the vastly predominantly slow-twitch fibers such as traps, calves, and forearms, I wouldn't delve too much above 15 reps at all. "

shouldnt it be the opposite?
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Quote (Deathslaya16 @ Sep 1 2014 10:26pm)
"However, apart from the vastly predominantly slow-twitch fibers such as traps, calves, and forearms, I wouldn't delve too much above 15 reps at all. "

shouldnt it be the opposite?


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