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Jul 28 2014 07:54pm
Quote (Trev @ Jul 28 2014 09:50pm)
You must have missed the part where I talked about not doing legs yet ;) (or maybe trolling)
Starting tonight! Doing various lifts, and some weird squats since I don't have a squat rack.

Pre-workout has kicked in, Leggooo


Sorry I just skipped all when I seen no leg workout lol, glad you have decided to start though. On a side note I've been reading doing squats etc will up your test a little bit, idk if that is true or not but if it is you will in hence get bigger faster.
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Jul 28 2014 08:59pm
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Sorry I just skipped all when I seen no leg workout lol, glad you have decided to start though. On a side note I've been reading doing squats etc will up your test a little bit, idk if that is true or not but if it is you will in hence get bigger faster.


I've also heard about that! Stunting my gains!!

(Tonights workout tl;dr version - leg and curl sets tonight, vacation wednesday-sunday)
I did a light leg workout, calves were hurting though.
4x15 squats 85 lbs
4x15-20 standing calve raises 40 lb dumbbells (80 total)
2x10 lunges on each leg 12 lbs
2x10 leg extension (4 black plates on my machine - whatever that is)

Then did some arm workouts
6x8 - Db curls - 20/25/30
6x8 - Db Hammer Curls - 20/25/30 - I wanted to cry (not litterally but seriously could feel the burn), my arms need vacation this week, they were hurting tonight.
4x8 - Ez Curl Bar - 20 lbs each side, so is that 55? not sure what the ez bar weighs 15 or 25 idk.
4x8 - Palms facing ground backward curls on machine - 2-3 black machine plates

Feel like I'm missing something but that's tonight's workout..
Vacation is on Wednesday, gotta get a good back workout tomorrow and rest for Wednesday through Saturday.
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Jul 28 2014 09:02pm
Quote (gary22 @ Jul 28 2014 09:54pm)
Sorry I just skipped all when I seen no leg workout lol, glad you have decided to start though. On a side note I've been reading doing squats etc will up your test a little bit, idk if that is true or not but if it is you will in hence get bigger faster.


transient increases in endogenous anabolic hormones have not proven to be associated with extra growth
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Jul 28 2014 09:08pm
About space constraints: if you have heavy dumbells you can do dumbell squats. It won't end up being the same as the usual squat variations but it can help keep you involved in movement patterns and if you really grind it out it should help you toward your goals.

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transient increases in endogenous anabolic hormones have not proven to be associated with extra growth


Exactly this and I'm glad someone posted it because a ton of people feel like doing squats will make them swole because it will release MOAR test. It turns out it's not enough of an increase. If people want to get the details they can start by reviewing a summary that is found near the start of this: http://startingstrength.com/articles/2013_strength_science_sullivan.pdf
If guys who do squats are getting results it's because they're working smarter and harder :P

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Jul 28 2014 09:17pm
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About space constraints: if you have heavy dumbells you can do dumbell squats. It won't end up being the same as the usual squat variations but it can help keep you involved in movement patterns and if you really grind it out it should help you toward your goals.



Exactly this and I'm glad someone posted it because a ton of people feel like doing squats will make them swole because it will release MOAR test. It turns out it's not enough of an increase. If people want to get the details they can start by reviewing a summary that is found near the start of this: http://startingstrength.com/articles/2013_strength_science_sullivan.pdf
If guys who do squats are getting results it's because they're working smarter and harder :P


I only have dumbbells up to 50 lbs each. 12,20,25,30,40,50. I'd imagine that'd be enough for me. Wondering if one legged squats would also help? I know balance wise and overall muscle improvement it might help strength a lot of the different leg muscles? Was struggling with one leg squats with just my body weight with balance. Rusty is an understatement.
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Jul 28 2014 09:25pm
Quote (Trev @ Jul 28 2014 03:23am)
So what should my bodyfat be? Am I underestimating?
I'm 6'2", 141.
Current pic a week ago
http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2014/07/18/71185971/profilepic/hFiVtvjBbHTJBDrdykYoHenWcrENkqtbBTjNp.jpg


Can you handle going outside on windy days?
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Jul 28 2014 10:29pm
its not possible to gain 6 lbs of muscle in 3 weeks, so i wouldnt really monitor the weight for now, regardless of bodyfat, its probably just food/water/turdz

focus on increasing your lifts and dont fall into the ''i gained weight'' trap, else you'll just become fat lol
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Jul 28 2014 11:47pm
Quote (Qwaze @ Jul 28 2014 11:29pm)
its not possible to gain 6 lbs of muscle in 3 weeks, so i wouldnt really monitor the weight for now, regardless of bodyfat, its probably just food/water/turdz

focus on increasing your lifts and dont fall into the ''i gained weight'' trap, else you'll just become fat lol


Right, I'm betting at LEAST 50% of that is water weight. Weight fluctuates so much, but the thing I'm noticing is my measurements, as long as my waist isn't growing and belly isn't adding fat layers then I'm just going to keep trucking.

Plus I'm not doing too high of a calorie diet as I really don't want to murder my liver/kidney.

Was doing 3 shakes a day 1100 calories each and at night I'd be sweating from so many calories that I couldn't sleep. Had to lower the intake.

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Jul 29 2014 08:10am
Quote (RewtheBrave @ Jul 28 2014 11:08pm)
About space constraints: if you have heavy dumbells you can do dumbell squats. It won't end up being the same as the usual squat variations but it can help keep you involved in movement patterns and if you really grind it out it should help you toward your goals.



Exactly this and I'm glad someone posted it because a ton of people feel like doing squats will make them swole because it will release MOAR test. It turns out it's not enough of an increase. If people want to get the details they can start by reviewing a summary that is found near the start of this: http://startingstrength.com/articles/2013_strength_science_sullivan.pdf
If guys who do squats are getting results it's because they're working smarter and harder :P


mayb not more gains but I could prob guarantee more energy and that would in itself be a huge benefit
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Jul 29 2014 10:05am
Quote (Trev @ 28 Jul 2014 23:17)
I only have dumbbells up to 50 lbs each. 12,20,25,30,40,50. I'd imagine that'd be enough for me. Wondering if one legged squats would also help? I know balance wise and overall muscle improvement it might help strength a lot of the different leg muscles? Was struggling with one leg squats with just my body weight with balance. Rusty is an understatement.


It would probably (almost definitely) help but it doesn't replace squats. But because it should help with balance and shift some attention to your hamstrings and adductors/abductors, it's really useful stuff. Maybe you could get into kettlebell moves (using the dumbells) and hip thrusts (with your barbells). Again it doesn't replace squats but it adds up to help your core and your hips -- which should play into your comfort and base for squats when you return to them :)
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