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Jul 19 2014 11:05pm
Quote (Balla @ Jul 20 2014 07:04am)
lol


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Jul 19 2014 11:19pm
hes dumb enough to argue, must have credentials in philosophy, arguing about pointless stuff

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Jul 19 2014 11:23pm
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what?
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Jul 19 2014 11:29pm
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what?


Do not feeds the trolls, lol

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Jul 19 2014 11:39pm
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Do not feeds the trolls, lol


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Jul 20 2014 03:07am
i honestly do not understand why people shit on the paleo idea so much

i am a staunch supporter of "do whatever the fuck you want", but the hate toward something fairly simple/straightforward is what i can't wrap my head around

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Jul 20 2014 06:56am
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i honestly do not understand why people shit on the paleo idea so much

i am a staunch supporter of "do whatever the fuck you want", but the hate toward something fairly simple/straightforward is what i can't wrap my head around


i think its mostly how its gets marketed.
as if it is some super healthy diet which will help you lose weight magically.
even tho its not healthier than other diets.

i bet most people dont even know what gluten is, but hey its glutenfree so thats a nice asset no?
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Jul 20 2014 05:22pm
Quote (AemKei @ Jul 20 2014 08:56am)
i think its mostly how its gets marketed.
as if it is some super healthy diet which will help you lose weight magically.
even tho its not healthier than other diets.

i bet most people dont even know what gluten is, but hey its glutenfree so thats a nice asset no?


i can see that i guess, especially when it is made into a cult-like wonder cure, sure (luckily, i haven't been exposed to that)..i do think it is kind of dumb to try to replicate normal things using abnormal ingredients though (such as "paleo bread" made with a million different flours and such - just eat damn bread if you want bread)..but, for the most part, people pick it apart 'just because'..i don't see it as deserving more ridicule than any other diet though, and i don't see any detriment from eating this way either

personally, i have done a paleo TYPE diet and lost weight painlessly..the idea of eating things that can instantly be recognized as "having grown from the ground"(vegetables) or "had a face"(meat) appeals to me

when i do it, i don't use any guidelines from an actual 'paleo diet'..i just simply cut out highly processed foods/carbs (my biggest thing was no bread/breading/pasta) and tried to eat things in a basic form

i would say 90-95% of what i ate was either a vegetable or meat (i love cheese and making sauces when i cook, so i know they don't always fit with the normal paleo idea, which is why i say 90-95% lol)..i made sure i got carbohydrates by eating root vegetables - such as potatoes, sweet potatoes, parsnips, turnips, beets, etc.

from my own experience with doing this, i actually felt better, my skin cleared up, and i leaned out a lot (went form 238 to 209 in 9 weeks)..i didn't count macros or calories, just ate until i was full, which with lots of vegetables, would be a good thing

i am not sure if i have gluten intolerance or not (i tried keeping gluten to minimum to see what effect it had, and yes, i know what it is), but i do know that i regularly eat a lot of food as i enjoy food and love cooking all sorts of things (have been trained to do so by being on a perpetual bulk while doing track)

so, by cutting out calorie dense foods (breads/pastas/'junk'), i was still able to eat a lot but not worry about my calories being way too high, and that is why i think it worked for me



on the aspect of health, i don't know how it can argued as 'not healthier' when compared to some of the other diets whose followers denounce it..i usually see people following IIFYM shit on this type of eating - i can see how eating a diet including mcdonalds, pizza rolls, hot pockets, pop tarts, etc can result in weight loss (as yes, it comes down to thermodynamics), but i can't see how it can be argued as equally healthy unless you are also cutting a lot of the same stuff out of the other diet (i just say this as cutting out highly processed things results in less preservatives/chemicals, more nutrient dense food, and more control over what is actually going into your food)

i can try to see both sides of the aspect, but with that, i don't get why it seems to be shit on the most lol
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Jul 20 2014 06:07pm
Quote (bnrhodes2 @ Jul 20 2014 09:07am)
i honestly do not understand why people shit on the paleo idea so much

i am a staunch supporter of "do whatever the fuck you want", but the hate toward something fairly simple/straightforward is what i can't wrap my head around


Because it's not even legitimately based on the feedings of Paleolithic era humans lol.

If the entire premise of the diet is bullshit, then people need to stop saying they are "eating paleo" and just say they are "eating healthier, and incorporating more nuts, berries, greens, and protein" into their diet.
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Jul 20 2014 06:12pm
Quote (bnrhodes2 @ Jul 20 2014 06:22pm)
i can see that i guess, especially when it is made into a cult-like wonder cure, sure (luckily, i haven't been exposed to that)..i do think it is kind of dumb to try to replicate normal things using abnormal ingredients though (such as "paleo bread" made with a million different flours and such - just eat damn bread if you want bread)..but, for the most part, people pick it apart 'just because'..i don't see it as deserving more ridicule than any other diet though, and i don't see any detriment from eating this way either

personally, i have done a paleo TYPE diet and lost weight painlessly..the idea of eating things that can instantly be recognized as "having grown from the ground"(vegetables) or "had a face"(meat) appeals to me

when i do it, i don't use any guidelines from an actual 'paleo diet'..i just simply cut out highly processed foods/carbs (my biggest thing was no bread/breading/pasta) and tried to eat things in a basic form

i would say 90-95%  of what i ate was either a vegetable or meat (i love cheese and making sauces when i cook, so i know they don't always fit with the normal paleo idea, which is why i say 90-95% lol)..i made sure i got carbohydrates by eating root vegetables - such as potatoes, sweet potatoes, parsnips, turnips, beets, etc.

from my own experience with doing this, i actually felt better, my skin cleared up, and i leaned out a lot (went form 238 to 209 in 9 weeks)..i didn't count macros or calories, just ate until i was full, which with lots of vegetables, would be a good thing

i am not sure if i have gluten intolerance or not (i tried keeping gluten to minimum to see what effect it had, and yes, i know what it is), but i do know that i regularly eat a lot of food as i enjoy food and love cooking all sorts of things (have been trained to do so by being on a perpetual bulk while doing track)

so, by cutting out calorie dense foods (breads/pastas/'junk'), i was still able to eat a lot but not worry about my calories being way too high, and that is why i think it worked for me



on the aspect of health, i don't know how it can argued as 'not healthier' when compared to some of the other diets whose followers denounce it..i usually see people following IIFYM shit on this type of eating - i can see how eating a diet including mcdonalds, pizza rolls, hot pockets, pop tarts, etc can result in weight loss (as yes, it comes down to thermodynamics), but i can't see how it can be argued as equally healthy unless you are also cutting a lot of the same stuff out of the other diet (i just say this as cutting out highly processed things results in less preservatives/chemicals, more nutrient dense food, and more control over what is actually going into your food)

i can try to see both sides of the aspect, but with that, i don't get why it seems to be shit on the most lol


Thank you sir. I have also noticed my energy levels are up. Same as you, skin cleared up. And it may sound odd, but I feel like the way I think is clearer and am able to concentrate easier.
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