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Sep 28 2011 02:08pm
who doesn't know the difference between bulking and cutting?

however these is a healthy medium ..not everyone wants to a body builder or even has the capability of being a bodybuilder..therefore i think cutting and bulking is pretty flawed for the average person imo..you can stay at 15% bodyfat and gain muscle year round

unless you want to or need to be lower than 15...but i dont see the point

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Quote (Timjm2 @ Sep 28 2011 04:08pm)
who doesn't know the difference between bulking and cutting?

however these is a healthy medium ..not everyone wants to a body builder or even has the capability of being a bodybuilder..therefore i think cutting and bulking is pretty flawed for the average person imo..you can stay at 15% bodyfat and gain muscle year round


if you've been in the picture thread apparently Upa doesn't understand the concept of cutting/bulk.

Quote (Timjm2 @ Sep 28 2011 04:11pm)
explain i havent been


not gonna bother just go look at all that bullshit arguing in that thread.


i think we can all agree this is a helpful thread for alot of people.

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if you've been in the picture thread apparently Upa doesn't understand the concept of cutting/bulk.



explain i havent been
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Sep 28 2011 02:24pm
Quote (Darkblue @ 28 Sep 2011 20:53)
Would depend what you consider trash. Foods high in fat--fat being the macronutrient with the highest caloric value per gram--will definitely yield more calories sure.

Or even foods/beverages with refined sugar. Like shit, glass of Grape juice, 80g sugar.

Is this what you are reffering to as trash or are you getting into discussion about micronutrients (or lack there of)


Under trash I mean fastfood.
Depending on goals we can go more specific, in that case you'd prefer monosaccharides in the morning and after training, polysaccharides elsewhere.
It can be made very specific but I see no reason why a non-competing person should turn eating into rocketscience - it should be a pleasure.
For example, Jari "Bull" Mentula takes eating as a job, bikers eating up to 9000kcal/day also lack the enjoyment of it. Strict dieting is hard and exhausting.

I'm not a micronutrients praising type of person either.
A competing athlete usually takes multivitamins/minerals and/or eat's respectively and has some basic knowledge in the field.
A casual athlete might also be doing this or that but as it's not the primary goal he will be fine without hitting 100% GDA on every single chemical on earth.
While one should get enough they shouldn't be too focused on those.
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Quote (Timjm2 @ Sep 28 2011 05:08pm)
who doesn't know the difference between bulking and cutting?

however these is a healthy medium ..not everyone wants to a body builder or even has the capability of being a bodybuilder..therefore i think cutting and bulking is pretty flawed for the average person imo..you can stay at 15% bodyfat and gain muscle year round

unless you want to or need to be lower than 15...but i dont see the point


many do not. the thread isnt merely to explain the difference, it is a guide on HOW TO.

depends on your goals, if thats the way you feel about it thats fine man...this is just a guide for others on how to effectively do both

Quote (BarnabyJones @ Sep 28 2011 05:09pm)
if you've been in the picture thread apparently Upa doesn't understand the concept of cutting/bulk.
i think we can all agree this is a helpful thread for alot of people.


haha this thread def. aint for him...found myself talking to a couple of people recently about it and I didnt want to go so thorough in a single post. So I thought I'd make this topic

Quote (IrishJoe @ Sep 28 2011 04:59pm)
good thread! good simple and easy way to find out how much calories in and out bro's should be having.


thanks man

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Quote (PureOwnage2 @ Sep 28 2011 12:23pm)
He's just talking about the basic principals of cutting and bulking.  You can cut and bulk and eat fucking dog food if you wanted to.  We aren't talking about overall body wellness :rofl: 

Obviously, that is important tho and I see your point :P


You couldn't eat dog food and cut correctly.

You couldn't eat purely pasta and cut correctly.

Cutting is highly based on a correct macro.

not just calories in/out.
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Sep 28 2011 11:07pm
Ah the age old argument about brotein.

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Quote (CMBurns @ Sep 29 2011 02:07am)
Ah the age old argument about brotein.


many seem to respect your information on these forums so why not add your 2 cents on the subject

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Quote (Darkblue @ 29 Sep 2011 01:09)
many seem to respect your information on these forums so why not add your 2 cents on the subject


There's been "studies" and counter studies and articles and whatnot and from my own personal research (assuming we put aside the fact that every fucking big dude eats alot of protein), the most recent stand point on this is that 1.5g/lbs of bodyweight is enough (as long as you're not really fat). There is also no given (or proven) limit of quantity of protein per meal. So while fast absorbing or slow digesting protein still make differences when taken post workout or before bed, there's nothing wrong with eating 100 grams of protein in the morning. It'll take longer to break down, yes, but assuming your body needs it, it'll digest all of it.

A surplus of protein is alot less likely to turn into fat than carbs, especially if the diet is low on carb since the proteins will be used as the fuel source. When proteins are the primary fuel source, they're used to repair muscles AND give energy to the body, so using more isn't "wrong" at all.
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Sep 28 2011 11:32pm
your diet must be atleast 95% Protein. 1000g of protein a day minimum or you'll never be a bodybuilder like me

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