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Aug 18 2009 11:46pm
Quote (SKCRaynor @ Wed, Aug 19 2009, 05:13am)
my first advice to you would be to check out the last few pages of the thread for some basic info on fat loss and so forth.

After you do that, consider the basics...if you want to be VERY serious you will require a customized plan.

if you want to be casual...you will require some tips to help you out:


The key to overall fat loss is the following:

- Burn more calories than you take in

- eliminate sugar and simple carbs from your diet (except for approx 30g right after a strength training workout)

- reduce carbs overall, and increase protein

- eliminate fast foods and frozen foods

- eat every 2-3 hours

- drink water or diet soda only (or any sugar-free, calorie free beverage)

- drink alcohol as rarely as possible

- get at least 8 hours of sleep a night!!

- Take fat burning supplements like BSN Atrophex, GAT Jet Fuel, or Nutrex Lipo-6


Sample meal plan (No carbs after your 3rd meal each day)



Meal 1 – 1 bowl of whole grain cereal (or oatmeal) w/ 2% skim milk + 1 fruit
Meal 2 – tuna or turkey sandwich on whole grain bread w/ veggies
Meal 3 – chicken or lean beef with small portion of brown rice or pasta + veggies.
Meal 4 – chicken, turkey, tuna, or lean beef on top of a salad
Meal 5 – turkey and cheese slices or 2 eggs + mixed nuts.
Meal 6 – 1 cup cottage cheese or glass of milk + mixed nuts.



As for a weight training routine...that will depend on which route you want to go:

1. lean muscular bodybuilder physique

2. toned surfer physique

3. big, bulky, powerlifter physique

4. average build with some added muscle and definition


once you pick your build - I can help further.


Hmm, lets go with Lean Muscular Bodybuilder Physique? <3
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Aug 19 2009 12:00pm
Quote (Btx @ Wed, Aug 19 2009, 01:46am)
Hmm, lets go with Lean Muscular Bodybuilder Physique? <3


this will require untold amounts of dedication, work, and persistence. if this is still something you can handle...we will go from there.
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Aug 19 2009 12:04pm
Quote (SKCRaynor @ Wed, Aug 19 2009, 12:00pm)
this will require untold amounts of dedication, work, and persistence. if this is still something you can handle...we will go from there.


everyone wants it hut I hear u can only have 800 cal/day
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Aug 19 2009 12:14pm
Quote (Honestly @ Wed, Aug 19 2009, 02:04pm)
everyone wants it hut I hear u can only have 800 cal/day


more like 2800 calories for a 165 lb man
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Aug 19 2009 12:17pm
Quote (SKCRaynor @ Wed, Aug 19 2009, 12:14pm)
more like 2800 calories for a 165 lb man


wat
how much gym time does that equate to?

This post was edited by Honestly on Aug 19 2009 12:17pm
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Aug 19 2009 04:52pm
Ok mr professional i got a couple questions for you if you dont mind, if you read this 7deadly curious to hear your input too

1)
What is your view on full body splits, I am having a couple issues with mine but it is too early to tell if I am getting bigger from the split or from the creatine i been eating/eating more food lately
right now what I am doing is MWF split with 2x10 per exercise, about 2 exercises per muscle group, doing a different set of exercises one day from the other so M and F will be the same stuff repeated, and W and the next M will be the same stuff repeated
and then on TTSatruday I do HIIT cardio and hit the muscle groups i didnt hit strait during the week(forearms, rotater cup/shoulder, abs, obliques)
I just came from doing a whole year strait non stop with maybe 2 weeks off the whole year of doing a 4-5 day split non-full body doing 1-2 muscle groups a day started out doing 8-12 reps for a few months, then 5-10, then 5x5 and wanted to do full body to switch it up for hypertrophy
But I am curious what you think of my routine and if you think full body might be overworking my muscles, and I may see more benefits from doing a split, also I am going to take a cycle of PH's soon I am pretty sure so would like to do something that would go good with those, right now I am way too strong for my size and just want to worry about hypertrophy and dont care about losing a little strength( i see guys much bigger then me all the time doing less weight they normally laugh when i grab 100 dumbells for bench and then when i actually do 8x they look pissed)

2)
Just looking to see what your view is on pro-hormones, like what brand you think is good to take(if any), if you think the negatives>positives when taken right(correct dosage+milk thistle+correct diet+routine), if you think they are just a waste of time and you lose the gains too easily etc...


sorry if you answered any of this already but i spent a bit looking and couldnt find
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Aug 20 2009 06:57am

USDA statistics show that because of increased portion sizes, the average total daily calorie intake has risen from 1,854 calories to 2,002 calories over the last 20 years. That increase—148 calories per day—theoretically works out to an extra 15 lbs. every year. Portion size is important to weight management.

Employ a common sense approach, such as using the palm of your hand or your clenched fist for gauging the portion sizes of food.




!@#$ the common sense approach , .. Pls can u convert those measurements in grams for me?
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Aug 20 2009 07:10am
Quote (Nitro @ Thu, Aug 20 2009, 12:57pm)
USDA statistics show that because of increased portion sizes, the average total daily calorie intake has risen from 1,854 calories to 2,002 calories over the last 20 years. That increase—148 calories per day—theoretically works out to an extra 15 lbs. every year. Portion size is important to weight management.

Employ a common sense approach, such as using the palm of your hand or your clenched fist for gauging the portion sizes of food.




!@#$ the common sense approach , .. Pls can u convert those measurements in grams for me?


-_-...

theres this thing called google conversion....

lol
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Aug 21 2009 06:53pm
Question.. Does it really matter if I take a protein shake before bed, people say it is better but by how much.. or can i take it once i wake up in the morning then once again later on, would there be a significant difference if i took it before bed or will it really wont matter how i consume it

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Quote (killa911 @ Fri, Aug 21 2009, 06:53pm)
Question.. Does it really matter if I take a protein shake before bed, people say it is better but by how much.. or can i take it once i wake up in the morning then once again later on, would there be a significant difference if i took it before bed or will it really wont matter how i consume it


the reason you take a protein shake before bed is because you are going to spend the next ~8 hours fasting and you need something in your body.
You also are better off taking casein protein before bed, which commonly is taken in the form of a powder or cottage cheese.
You want to take casein protein because it is a slow release protein vs fast absorb like whey. Whey is mostly used for pwo and when you wakeup because you get it absorbed right away so drinking it before bed wont do quite as much as casein.
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