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Aug 15 2009 01:28am
Quote (bones0187 @ Sat, Aug 15 2009, 01:57am)
what about just tribulus or taking trib+nova, i just have heard from freinds they took novadex xt and got almost no effects from it, gains, phsycial, or mental

i do think i need to get on a test booster though after seeing my last numbers(my testosterone was around 430-480)



I would stick to just trib and/or novadex - novadex does work - but its primarily an anti-estrogen to be used post-cycle after PH
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Aug 15 2009 01:29am
Quote (Nitro @ Sat, Aug 15 2009, 02:57am)
how does someone know if they have gynecomastia or pseudogynecomastia (fake gyno - with only fat deposits) ?


easiest way is to just see a doctor that can do both blood tests and a physical exam.
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Aug 15 2009 03:19am

What happens if the doctor finds out its just pseudogynecomastia and tells me its the real thing just so he can do surgery on me and charge me 15000 us dollars?
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Aug 15 2009 09:42am
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What happens if the doctor finds out its just pseudogynecomastia and tells me its the real thing just so he can do surgery on me and charge me 15000 us dollars?


that is why you get multiple opinions and not rely on just one doctor. also blood tests generally don't lie lol
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Aug 15 2009 09:46am
Quote (SKCRaynor @ Sat, Aug 15 2009, 07:42pm)
that is why you get multiple opinions and not rely on just one doctor. also blood tests generally don't lie lol


what should i look for in a blood test?
they have many clinics here that do the surgery , i just want to know what to look for in a blood test.. i think its only the fat deposits , but i'll only know that when i get my body fat down to 9% somethin... right now im on bloody 45% haha.. (thx atkins)
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Aug 15 2009 09:57am
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what should i look for in a blood test?
they have many clinics here that do the surgery , i just want to know what to look for in a blood test.. i think its only the fat deposits , but i'll only know that when i get my body fat down to 9% somethin... right now im on bloody 45% haha.. (thx atkins)


I would definitely just lose some fat first and come down to under 15% before getting tested. Once you are that low...if you are still showing gyno...then it will probably have to be surgically corrected...but until then no worries.
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Aug 15 2009 10:04am
Quote (SKCRaynor @ Sat, Aug 15 2009, 07:57pm)
I would definitely just lose some fat first and come down to under 15% before getting tested. Once you are that low...if you are still showing gyno...then it will probably have to be surgically corrected...but until then no worries.


even if i have true gyno (which is a 5% possibility) i hope i don't get scars , i'll get my self tested once i lose 35% more body fat :D

Thanks m9 !
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Aug 15 2009 12:47pm
J/w do you think front squats would be better on my knees than back squats?
i haven't did squats for a bit cuz my knees are pretty bad but i really want to and if theres a way i can do them i will..
so yeah ezier on knees if i do the front squat? i was also thinking they'd be ezier by having to use less weight..j/w
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Aug 15 2009 01:42pm
Quote (Balla @ Sat, Aug 15 2009, 06:47pm)
J/w do you think front squats would be better on my knees than back squats?
i haven't did squats for a bit cuz my knees are pretty bad but i really want to and if theres a way i can do them i will..
so yeah ezier on knees if i do the front squat? i was also thinking they'd be ezier by having to use less weight..j/w


Interested by that too, and yea using less weight must help..?
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Aug 15 2009 08:45pm
wrong sticky

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