Like I said, it depends on your life style. There's a reason why you don't see American muscle cars around here.

What you do see a lot of though, is the Tesla Model S, it's the second best selling car in the country, second only to the VW Golf. the Tesla Model S comes in at a bargain (by our standards) of $75,000 so 1 in every 4 cars in Oslo is a fricken brand new Tesla. The reason for this is that there's a 100% import tax on FUEL cars but 0% tax on electric cars.

And then there's the Co² tax, the cylinder # tax and the number of litres on the engine tax, all of which are very high on a muscle car, but absolute zero on an electric car.

Charging electric cars is 100% free too. So while a Norwegian factory worker, painter or school teacher could never afford a 7.5 litre V8 Corvette, he can afford a 2014 Tesla Model S no problem.

The truth if the matter is we get more for our money than the US citizens do. Add up all the costs of living for an average life style and you'll see we earn 2x more but pay 1.5x more.


Gross National Income per capita (PPP):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GNI_(PPP)_per_capita

puts it at $67,450 to $52,610


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but those average. Here no one is poor and not that many are rich in comparison to the average. If you have high ambitions and plutocratic dreams like myself, Norway isn't the place for you, which is why I'd rather live in NYC, London or Dubai.

This post was edited by MGS4BestGameEverMade on Aug 28 2014 08:52am

Well I'm was refering to everything else not only the cars. Everything you named is like 2-3x less here in Canada.

but if you look at each of those things relative to the minimum wage, the prices are only moderately higher if at all. i could still work an 8 hour shift in each country and be able to buy the same things

You guys can't just look at a few items and assume that's how cost of living works though You'll have to look at the entire package. . Japan/Hong Kong are pretty cheap places if you go there holiday, Big Macs are like $2.50 down there but if you live there you'll see it costs you $3000/month for a 1 bedroom apartment in the city. Not cheap anymore, but extremely expensive.


add up the annual food bill (~ 10% of income), cost of a decent car + petrol + insurance (15-20% of income), electricity, phone subscription, 4 bedroom family house (30-35% of income), etc and the TOTAL annual spending for equal lifestyles will be roughly 50% higher in Norway than the USA and roughly 35-40% higher than Canada.. not 100-200% like the items I listed might suggest ^^



Looking at individual price comparison will give a false impression of the cost of living.

For instance. a 13" Macbook Pro Retina starts at $1399 in Canada, while a decent paying student job is what, $10/hr? that's 140 hours work for the base model.

Here it's 10 900,- NOK and a typical student job pays NOK 150,-/hr so we only need to work 72 hours to buy ourselves a Macbook Pro Retina (base 13" model).


so does that mean Norwegian purchasing power is exactly twice that of Canadian purchasing power? (72 vs 140 hours to buy the same thing)


... Of course not. Add in the total cost of living, the Macbook Pro only makes a small % of your spendings throughout your life time, then compare income and the answer is probably 40-50% higher purchasing power here compared to Canada. (my estimate) GNI (PPP) puts it at $ 67K to $ 42K which is actually 60% higher.

This post was edited by MGS4BestGameEverMade on Aug 28 2014 10:21am

no and im aware of that but those examples you all gave are all reasonable. im sure there are outliers but from examples you gave we have similar pricing relative to hours worked except for maybe muscle cars (import taxes and "exoticness" etc)

muscle cars and the Nissan GT-R (etc) are waaaaay overpriced here, there's no justifying it. We don't make 5-6 times the amount an American does, yet we have to pay 5-6 times the amount to get those cars

The government here tends to overprice things they don't like. They don't want the population to smoke or drink alcohol, so they add 270% tax on all tobacco and alcohol. They want to be the leading nation in environmentalism (despite the oil) so set up a tax % based on the amount of CO² it releases and how much fuel it consumes. They don't want an obese population so we have something called "sugar tax" which makes stuff like coke expensive. They do want us to drive electric cars and eat our vegetables/fruit so they cut the VAT/tax on both to keep prices low ^^

It's a disgusting tactic and really hate it but you can't say it doesn't work; the numbers don't lie:




the one Tesla Model S outsold the entire line up from Ford, Volvo, Nissan and well. everyone apart from the top 5. combining the entire line up of VW (Golf, Passat, Toureq, Tiguain, etc) and it barely passes just 1 single car model Oo

So said to say it's working

This post was edited by MGS4BestGameEverMade on Aug 28 2014 10:40am

Guys guys guys.....maybe start a new thread lol.

Yeah I was thinking the same thing lol, I feel bad for invading the PYIP thread but at the same time can't help answer questions I'm interested in answering :>


Moving conversation to pm's ^^

This post was edited by MGS4BestGameEverMade on Aug 28 2014 10:55am

2 months ago


shit diet checking in

ice cream almost everyday
entire box of nutty bars yesterday
entire box of Swiss cake rolls last week
yum
current



This post was edited by 0pti on Aug 29 2014 04:29am

Looks like you are trying my diet.

Looking ripped as fuark though