I say that what is healthy is to go down as deep as YOU CAN, without pushing like a moron to go down or without stopping before a deeper point you could achieve.
I'm done talking here, if you want to continue discussing throw me a pm, I'm hijacking raynor's thread.

This post was edited by Urbain on Aug 12 2009 01:32pm

Wow. This comment made you a douche.





Never fucking talk about my idol you cunt.


But seriously atg is the best way. Explained in post 1847

Sir you're on 90% warn , i thought you said you will not use abusive language?

its ok for me. i just touched his feelings way to hard.

It wasn't hate tho so <3. I was just kidding i don't really care about hawkins...my idol is einstein

This post was edited by piller on Aug 12 2009 01:51pm

yes lol

Hey there -

I have to correct a few things.

First of all, going as far down as you can in a squat (the term is ass to grass or ass to ground...but truthfully it is more like hamstrings to calves) is the best way to develop your legs both for strength, size, and definition. It does in fact take some pressure off the knees if you go all the way down...stopping at 90 degrees puts the center axis of the weight directly on the knee joint. This, over time, will cause tremendous damage to the surrounding cartilage, ligaments, tendons, and even soft tissue.

Now, for the purposes of a power lifting meet - going down only to 90 degrees is obviously the better option, as you can technically lift a lot more weight this way. However, the point I am making and explaining is that for reps at the gym, when you normally train squats....always go down as far as possible. For your 1 rep max at a powerlifting meet, 90 degrees is fine.

as for leaning forward...this is true...however, if you lean TOO far forward, it can have the same negative effect as not leaning forward at all. The key is to have a moderate stance with the weight cocked forward without displacing the weight unevenly across your back and legs.

Lastly...no need for all of you to argue on the thread. This thread is for free helpful advice to all of you who request it. I just ask that you guys take your arguments and potential hijacks to a PM instead of the thread so that others who are in need of help do not have to wade through the constant bickering. Thank you =)

i just calculated the rates from bodybuilding along with shipping , it comes upto the same price with the discount i get from this stuff..

ok heres the plan.. now that i'm stocked ^^

on weight training days (which is done on empty stomach - first thing in the morning) - take 4 pills of bcaa , workout , and then gold standard 100% whey protein isolate from optimum nutrition.. and then carry on with the remaining day with 3 myoplex originals and 3 small balanced meals)
cardio days (also on empty stomach - die fat) take 4 pills of bcaa - workout , then carry on with the day just as the weight training days)
(CLA , betagen, nutrex lipo 6 black , muscle armor - as label)

i'll lower my calorie intake cos im havin post workout shake , ill make my bed time snack as low fat cottage cheese and fat free yoghurt?

you work out on an empty stomach?

yeah , first thing in the morning..
as per body for life competition .. the book says for those whose main goal is to lose fat , they must workout on an empty stomach - first thing in the morning , thats why Raynor asked me to take bcaa's before i workout so i don't lose a lot of muscle while exercising..