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Aug 1 2009 12:41am
Quote (SKCRaynor @ Sat, Aug 1 2009, 01:23am)
This is an EXCELLENT question.


You can hit tris effectively using both methods...and also alternating from wide to narrow grip. The idea is that each exercise and grip works a different part of the triceps. If you do a machine dip with the close grip, it hits the close head of the tricep...whereas when you do the wide grip it hits the outer. As far as the bench dips go, they work the deeper tricep, rather than the higher tricep....I recommend doing both and alternating to build the full tricep compliment.


ahh ok ty
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Quote (SKCRaynor @ Fri, Jul 31 2009, 11:20pm)
depends...explain the pain in detail and everything surrounding it. I need more details!


if i touch it it will hurt and if i take my weight off leg it will hurt
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Aug 1 2009 04:03pm
Quote (oHwow @ Sat, Aug 1 2009, 04:59pm)
if i touch it it will hurt and if i take my weight off leg it will hurt


listen to me.

explain the entire situation to me.

If you insist on being brief with me and not giving me the whole story I won't be able to help you.
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Quote (Honestly @ Fri, Jul 31 2009, 12:12pm)
youre right. I guess it was when my dad died when I was so young. I spent so much time in a selfinduced selfloathing that i seem to have forgotten what it was like to form gramatically correct sentences involving tact and poise. Thank you raynor for changing my life with your program.

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    The words doth roll off thy tongue, though my tongue be sharp and his is as a soup spoon. Alas he brings into play my jealousy. Clearly, my dear  little man, I have no intention of sparking debate with you on those terms. But you presume too much of me. As they say, "know thy enemy then know thyself". You have declared war on my resolve and good reason. Though inebriated by meditation, I am aware of the internets traditions


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Aug 2 2009 06:20am
in terms of running

i competitively run 1 and 2 mile for the school track season.

over the summer i have x2 2.5 mile, x2 5 mile, and x1 7.5 mile.
All separate running routes I've measured out, etc.

At the beginning of this summer (Around end of april, beginning of may), I partially tore & stretched my ACL.
I also had a minor lateral meniscus tear.

Now, 4 months later roughly, all that's left is some minor tendonosis (Not tendonitis, it really is osis), in my left Patella Tendon. (This is all on my left knee, mind you.)


I can run just fine, but if it seems like the better in shape I am, the more it hurts when I run.

Anything I can do to help this?
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Aug 2 2009 10:41am
I'm in pain there :



After I'll have done heavy-close grip bench press, or after squatting and that I had to support the bar with my hands for a while so that it does not slide, I will feel a small pain in that area.

But 2-3-4 days after, it is getting worst. I can't even position my hands to do a push-up right now.

But tomorrow or in 2 days the pain will completly be gone..Needless to say I'm not close-grip benching right now, but I still squat and I never let the bar slip on purpose.
What could this be?
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Quote (imapkeryo @ Sun, Aug 2 2009, 08:20am)
in terms of running

i competitively run 1 and 2 mile for the school track season.

over the summer i have x2 2.5 mile, x2 5 mile, and x1 7.5 mile.
All separate running routes I've measured out, etc.

At the beginning of this summer (Around end of april, beginning of may), I partially tore & stretched my ACL.
I also had a minor lateral meniscus tear.

Now, 4 months later roughly, all that's left is some minor tendonosis (Not tendonitis, it really is osis), in my left Patella Tendon. (This is all on my left knee, mind you.)


I can run just fine, but if it seems like the better in shape I am, the more it hurts when I run.

Anything I can do to help this?



Hmm...there are two approaches you can try.

1. strengthening the region through focused weight training (one leg exercises including leg extensions, leg curls, lunges, etc.) If you feel pain, reduce the weight and proceed. If you continue to feel pain with just bodyweight doing these exercises, stop doing them all together (at least temporarily).

2. rejuvenation method. Start by icing the area after each time you use it. This will encourage any swelling and irritation to slowly come to a stop. Icing should be done in standard 15 on 15 off methods for a total of 2-3 icing after each time of use. The next thing to try is a good joint support formula (this one is a longshot but worth a try) - get Universal Animal Flex packs and try these for a month and see if there is any improvement. Next, try Traumeel (oral drops and creme) 3x a day. Traumeel is an absolutely fantastic product (i was skeptical at first, but it really works after I've tried it for many things and with many people). If all of these approaches fail, you should see a chiropractor and see if they can do applied traction on you for several sessions - I have found a pretty high rate of success with this, especially in people that have had ACL problems.

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Quote (Urbain @ Sun, Aug 2 2009, 12:41pm)
I'm in pain there :

http://handspecialists.com/images/wrist_pain.jpg

After I'll have done heavy-close grip bench press, or after squatting and that I had to support the bar with my hands for a while so that it does not slide, I will feel a small pain in that area.

But 2-3-4 days after, it is getting worst. I can't even position my hands to do a push-up right now.

But tomorrow or in 2 days the pain will completly be gone..Needless to say I'm not close-grip benching right now, but I still squat and I never let the bar slip on purpose.
What could this be?



THIS PROBLEM IS EXTREMELY COMMON. You are holding the bar incorrectly! The weight is transferring through your wrist rather than your hand and forearm. You need to keep your hands towards an IN-LINE position, where your wrists do NOT bend whatsoever! In addition, when you bring your hands in close for close-grip bench press, you also contort the wrists into an un natural position. Try to get them a tiny bit wider than you use presently to allievate this problem. In addition, try using harbinger gloves (the kind that come with the wrist supports) and use these for all pushing exercises. Tight wrist wraps will encourage proper form and good support for the wrists.

The LEFT side is INCORRECT - the RIGHT side is CORRECT



This post was edited by SKCRaynor on Aug 2 2009 12:58pm
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Aug 2 2009 03:19pm
So you think there is nothing really to worry about...I almost broke my wrist once and it has been a bitch ever since..but now that I come to think of it...never have I been in pain except after I knew I had done something wrong :S

And you are right about the hands position :blush: ..that was more than likely the problem

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So you think there is nothing really to worry about...I almost broke my wrist once and it has been a bitch ever since..but now that I come to think of it...never have I been in pain except after I knew I had done something wrong :S

And you are right about the hands position  :blush: ..that was more than likely the problem


yes nothing to worry about at all - just take the precautions that I have mentioned.
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