Dat 10% bf at 158 booo

Yea dude, I feel that. The only reason I'm tryna stay lean while I bulk is cause my already unimpressive physique is a lot worse when I have excess fats. Currently @ 145 I ate 3k cals everyday this week with no cardio and I'm maintaining my weight.. Gotta up them cals starting monday.

except no offense to tempone, his trans was amazing
but he looks small. and if for some reason you dont think he does, well i have 18 inch biceps at 200 lbs, and hes 42 pounds smaller then i am.
pics do justice.

also i didnt suggest anythign was small under 2. i have plenty of friends who show up big that are hovering around 180-190 at 7%ish

but which scrawn multi are you btw?

This post was edited by Tear on Nov 16 2013 12:02pm

Me.

Did you take my post as an attack on you? It was not.

For some reason, I don't think he looks small.. TBH I've seen your pics as well, if you said you were 150-160 pounds I would believe you. I suppose you meant pics *don't do justice?

Of course 180-190 can look big.. that's huge in actuality (for someone with a considerable amount of lean muscle).. which was my point. Although 7% ish might be a gross over-estimation, especially if they are natural and below 6ft. In the pictures I posted of myself where I have pronounced vascularity I'm probably 7-8%, most people don't realize how extreme 5-6% looks and how great and lean 10% can look with great muscle shape.

Sorry if you took any offense, you look great as well (with much more muscle than me btw), it's just you can't compare yourself to others simply based on weight if you are not as conditioned as they are. If you cut down to 10, or slightly sub 10% (based on an honest and critical deduction) you would probably be at least 20 pounds lighter than you are now.

no, i was just confused
and i am 10% bf currently (as tested by calipers recently)

the generalization of your post tho, that natural maximums of 170-180 at 4-6% bf etc.
thats such a generalization its not even funny, theres 7billion on this planet, it certainely does not mean people cant surpass these averages.

there are genetic freaks out there, a ton of them.

This post was edited by Tear on Nov 16 2013 12:30pm

Hehe, thanks bb

I agree, but i think you overlooking the work Average,

there is not a precise limit, but its an idea of what the average person can expect

That generalization is from some study on a couple natural bodybuilders. I forgot where I read it, maybe on Martin Berkhan's site? I forgot but it seemed that Martin and a couple other reliable sources came up with formulas for height and natural weight limit estimates and they were generally around that range.

Certainly, there are genetic outliers. I hope that I am one of them, I guess it's good to be optimistic right!? Too bad I'll have to wait years to see if I can beat those numbers.

Soon I will post a before and after